Thanks for all of your replies. I had originally wanted a home birth for DS but the private hospital I birthed at is amazing! There is a standard 4 night stay (you could leave early if you really wanted) but we like staying the 4 nights and would happily do that again. The family rooms are huge, we could still co-sleep with ds there if we are still cosleeping at home and if we aren't he can sleep on the floor on a mattress then we will have room in the bed to cosleep with the new bub like what we did with ds when he was born I've been thinking about it since starting this thread and it just wouldn't sit well any other way then to have ds at the birth. We are a really close family and I can't imagine leaving him out. What we may have to consider is having someone there to look after him as I will want dh by my side the entire time. The birthing rooms are also huge and all going well like last time I will be in the bathroom in the bath having a water birth so ds could be out in the main room where the bed etc is playing or being in with us, whatever he is happy with. I will speak to dh when we even get pg (who knows when that will be) and maybe we will organise someone like my SIL to be there with us. That's the biggest problem, we really only want it to be just us. When we had ds we didn't even have any visitors to the hospital as we wanted that time to bond plus another few days at home before we had visitors. hmmm I guess we will know what feels right when the time comes!