Hi Julie, thanks for all that information - very interesting. Some great points for me to (try to) remember if we ever have any more babies.

No, I didnt have gravity on my side, which is also something that probably caused my difficulties. My daughter was in an unusual position and I had to be lying on my back when the Ob came in the turn her head - she wasnt coming crown first, she was coming sort of side of head fist therefore too big to fit out that way. I was just so exhausted (hadnt slept a wink in like 30 hours) and by that point just could physically not move onto all fours.. so unfortunately I could only really push her out while on my back.