im not sure what they said exactly about the babies head, by that stage i was just wanting to die (seriously)... he did though, before deciding on a c section, insert his fingers, and actually turned the babies head, so i guess it was facing the wrong way, and he manipulated it with this hands/fingers to turn it the correct way. Both midwives sort of freaked out as they had never seen that done before.... but it didn't help and had to have the c-section anyway.

he said due to my pelvis unlikely for a vbirth... but who knows. there is no way i am trying it again though.