Hey Renstar, sorry to hear that bubs hasn't made an appearance yet.

I was 5 days over due when the ob did an internal and I was already in prelabour and 2 cm dilated. I was really surprised that my body was already getting organised and I had no idea. things went downhill for me after that but I think had I relaxed and kept doing the 'natural' induction methods things probably would have been better.

Good luck, oh and one of my friends said she sat in one of those massage chairs for 10-20 mins with both her babies and went into active labour about 4 hours later, she doesn't know if that is what got them started but it is a bit of a coincidence...