Hmm, I would just like to point something out here.

Lots of us here have been rather taken aback when people like M Odent have pointed out that men don't really need to be at their childrens birth. He quotes several reasons for this - one of them is that he is has seen many many babies born as soon as the father is out of the room.

We have lots of daddys here that have seemed to need more help than their partners (fainting etc) as well.

Just some food for thought next time we all get indignant that someone suggests that daddys don't have to be present at their childrens birth....