Thanks guys... thats what I thought, re being second baby and being so close as DD is only 17 months.

So Kel in you opinion, and I know that it will just be an opinion, there would be no HUGE extra risk in being induced with bub still not engaged to going in naturally with out bub being engaged... maybe if I just have the gel it will help bring bub down... you know not use anything else like synto etc...?

I did a fair bit of walking today... maybe that is why I am so sore???

Thanks again... off to bed to try and sleep.