I'm not sure what you mean ms_fluffy, but what Kelly's referring to I think is also known as "Purple Pushing" and I have seen sooooo many birthing videos/shows etc where this is common (where you grunt and bear down like nothing else). And I've also watched where women go with the flow and breath down each contraction rather than purple push and the baby always seems (to me) to be born quicker and easier, and also easier on the mum too with less tearing etc.

I hope I'm on the right wavelength with both of you LOL!

But I know I'll be breathing down as oppose to purple pushing and if anyone tells me to push hard I'll tell them to shuttup! LOL!

*hugs*
Cailin