Breastfeeding Chatter #17

**OceanPrincess** · January 5th, 2013, 07:23 PM

Nice one T

**little_O** · January 5th, 2013, 09:08 PM

Just a quick question... Breast milk changes in the hot weather to become more watery yeah?
Does that mean dd will need more feeds to get the usual "food" amount?

**OceanPrincess** · January 5th, 2013, 09:37 PM

Hmm little o not sure about that... I know that babies will generally feed more frequently than during normal weather, but it is my understanding that it is more about thirst-quenching, due to the fat content of the milk at the start of a feed being lower than at the end.

That doesn't really make sense - here's some info from the ABA website:

Breastmilk contains a perfectly balanced ratio of food and water to meet all your baby's needs. It is a living fluid, ever-changing to suit your baby and even in response to the weather! The first milk your baby gets from a full breast has a low fat content and naturally quenches baby's thirst. Once the let-down has occurred, the fat content of the milk gradually increases as the breast softens. This later milk has a creamier appearance and satisfies baby's hunger.*

In hot weather a thirsty baby may want to breastfeed more frequently but for shorter periods. In this way he is getting more low-fat milk and so is satisfying his thirst. If you need to be away from your baby, it is preferable that he has your expressed breastmilk (EBM).

I'd reckon that because she's feeding more frequently she'd get the right amount of food

**HotI** · January 5th, 2013, 09:49 PM

i don't eat as much, or as many 'heavy' foods when it is hot. Probably babies don't need or want as much food either, but do want the fluids to keep cool.

**onthefly** · January 5th, 2013, 10:00 PM

If you let her drink when she wants, she'll get what she needs

**little_O** · January 6th, 2013, 05:48 AM

Ok thanks for the info OP, that does make sense.

The poor thing has been out of sorts with the weather and teething, so I didn't want her to be hungry too. I shall just have my bb's on stand by ready for her beck and call!!

Oh and if I'm giving her milk, will she need a cup? Or I should be enough right?

**HotI** · January 6th, 2013, 06:05 AM

Yep, you are enough. Remember to keep your fluids up too.

**~TT40~** · January 6th, 2013, 07:34 AM

from what I have read, the first milk is more watery and quenches thirst, then the milk after let down is the creamer and satisfys hunger (gets thicker and creamer as the feed progresses). so what bubs tend to do is feed more often, but less, often they just have a few sucks and come off before letdown (or as letdown) so they are just having lots of little drinks itms. (im sure someone else will have more to add)

**onthefly** · January 6th, 2013, 10:06 AM

Fat globules get stuck in the ducts and flushed down with successive letdowns, so the fat content increases throughout the feed. That's the only thing that really changes - not the sugar or water content, just the fat content increasing (if that makes sense).
What we know from research is that regardless of whether your baby has lots of small feeds or fewer larger feeds, they get the same amount of fat in the end. So, if your baby is healthy and going well, you can simply feed them when they ask for it and they will get what they need.

**Cranky Kitten** · January 6th, 2013, 10:29 AM

Gratuitous whinge warning!!

Owwwww, my boobs hurt. DS feeding feels like he's rubbing sandpaper on my nipples and they ache all.the.damn.time! How on earth do people survive feeding in the early weeks of pregnancy?

**Chrispe** · January 6th, 2013, 12:24 PM

Oh cranky kitten,

Feeding isn't supposed to hurt, there could be something unusual going on (like his attachment/latch, or maybe thrush or something.) someone here might have a good idea. Or PM Barb (she's a lactation consultant.)

Hugs, and hoping its better soon.

**leckert** · January 6th, 2013, 01:02 PM

Cranky kitten - I know the feeling, I only lasted until 9 weeks pg while feeding ds1 still (at least it was just the bedtime feed at that stage and he was over 2)

**onthefly** · January 6th, 2013, 01:48 PM

Yeah, it does hurt! DS was a lot older when I was pg with DD and I cut his feeds short - he was only feeding quite infrequently, too. By 9-10 weeks he just stopped asking. The IVF drugs cut my supply right out, so there was no milk that whole time!

**~TT40~** · January 6th, 2013, 08:06 PM

i was hoping that too little_o!! and now you have me concerned MadB re ivf drigs. is that common to dry up?

**onthefly** · January 6th, 2013, 08:15 PM

estrogen affects supply. It depends on what kind of cycle you do, where your supply is and your personal biology.
I did an HRT FET, so lots of estrogen, and DS was only feeding every other day or so, so supply was VERY low to begin with. If you do a stimulated cycle, you'll likely have similar issues, as all those follicles will lift estrogen levels significantly.

**Cranky Kitten** · January 6th, 2013, 09:09 PM

Definitely think he's not getting as much - he asked for a drink of water straight after a bf. Ah well, guess we'll play it by ear.

**little_O** · January 6th, 2013, 10:38 PM

Cranky kitty: my mum said that when he got pg with my 2nd brother, my eldest brother wasnt interested in her milk anymore. Could it have changed back to colostrum already?

**Chrispe** · January 7th, 2013, 05:46 AM

Gratuitous whinge warning!!

Owwwww, my boobs hurt. DS feeding feels like he's rubbing sandpaper on my nipples and they ache all.the.damn.time! How on earth do people survive feeding in the early weeks of pregnancy?

Sorry Cranky Kitten, for some reason my brain read that as early weeks of feeding, and missed seeing the pregnancy bit. I can understand how it would hurt, in first trimester my boobs are super sensitive nobody gets to touch them!