Ok - I know what they are - but what exactly are they there to help with? For example, Eden is beginning to latch on fine with a bottle now - nice shaped lips and she just sucks away happily, however, I just tried her on the boob again, and she just sat there with my nipple in her mouth, and then rolled it around her tongue sorta thing, and then yanked her head down, and clamped her lips shut around it and sucked - ouch! No matter how many times I detach her and try again (my latest count was 20 ) she keeps on doing it!!!!!

I dunno if its cos she is used to the bottle already - can that happen at 4 days old??? - but would getting nipple shields help the problem at all?

I'm going between wanting to keep trying to bf and happy to express - arghhh - I dunno what to do!!!!