Thanks everyone- i persisted and got a good mw who helped us- i have noticed though that even if we do get a good attachment- DD will tend to slip off (again- very similar to DS)..

So she said to just keep detaching and reattaching every time it feels wrong, which may seem tedious but will be better for us both. Also she said that my nipple was a bit big- not a huge problem- but may be why she is slipping off - unfortunately this mw just finished her shift, but she said just keep buzzing and get someone to be there every attachment so i am being supported. i will ask about a LC- if i need to i will search around for a private one. And i will give that number a call for a counselllor - thank Oorki!! We had a good feed just now- so i think with a bit of help we will get there without the pain from last time!

Jacsie.. yep bleeding and cracks galore- and then when he did start attaching properly it still hurt coz of all the damage- thats why i am really trying to nip it in the bud now!!!

Spring.. thanks Yeah i am doing it in bed, the mw had the same suggestion- so i will move to the chair when i need to feed

MR.. i have tried the baby led attachment and with out help she just latches on to the tip of the nipple- and quite happily sucks away.. any tips on helping that???

Thanks again ladies- i love having BB to rely on for help!!!