Really need help i am at a loss

[Mum2Romone]

hey,
I hd that too and I persevered thinking it was just me for about a month until i was almost dcrying every feed. it was thrush and it went away in like 3 days. Go see your baby centre/clinic or gp, they will sort it out

[Smoke Jaguar]

Noooooooooo...sounds like thrush!! Get bub's mouth swabbed to find out.
Otherwise, if it comes up negative, book yourself in with a IBCLC lactation consultant. Yes, it costs money, but it's the best money you'll spend if it gets the BFing back on track. You know that feeling in the middle of the night when it all seems to feel the worst and you think "if I could spend $100 right now to get back on track I'd go to the ATM and hand it over"?? Well, remember that before you talk yourself out of a LC
And call 1800 MUM2MUM!

[MantaRay]

I would agree that this sounds like thrush and the 1800 mum2mum helpline can help with further information. However, I do not agree with the idea of using Lansinoh. Sometimes this can be helpful for mums, but dampness around the nipples is the cause of thrush and using creams can make this worse. Putting some expressed breast milk on the nipples after every feed and allowing them to air dry usually works better. It is also important to ensure that you don't leave damp breast pads in - keeping the nipples dry is very important.

[Smoke Jaguar]

Agreed - Lansinoh is great for cracked nipples from bad attachment (don't care what anyone else says, it saved my skin when DS had TT!), but it's not going to help with thrush.
I find the Daktarin oral gel after every feed and in between works fantastically, as well as orally dosing the baby's mouth. The pharmacist will ask you if you've seen a doctor about it and if you have then just tell them so (even if the doc hasn't suggested the gel!) and that it's for nipple thrush - as soon as you say 'nipple thrush' they back off and assume you know what you're doing. They're just afraid of you giving a spoon dose to a baby under 6 months old, but the stuff is fine if ingested from it being smeared on the nipple (and it's not smeared fresh for them to ingest, anyway, it's applied well before a feed to deal with the thrush on the nipple, not in their mouths IYKWIM).
When DD was first swabbed and it came back +ve the doc suggested a thrush CREAM and said to wipe it off before every feed...this was so inconvenient when out, and I was out a bit (was just before Christmas!), so I just didn't use the cream till I got home, which could mean a once a day application. Doc obviously didn't know about the gel, or didn't realise it could be used more safely than the cream?
Anyhow, if you haven't been treating it, be prepared for symptoms to get worse before they get better...and they DO get better!! Before you know it you'll forget what it was like

[Pinny-mum]

Agreed - Lansinoh is great for cracked nipples from bad attachment (don't care what anyone else says, it saved my skin when DS had TT!), but it's not going to help with thrush.

:yeahthat:

I too stand by Lansinoh, I even still use it occasionally when DS gets new teeth that we both have to get use to!!! How is the feeding going today??? Hang in there your doing a great job

[AliB]

Hi Shell, I thought of you again when I was reading in the ABA mag last night about great success that people with sensitive nipples have with nipple shields. ALthough there are some who will warn you against them they have been a godsend for many.

Also Mayaness is right about the LC - I was out with friends with newborns yesterday, one told about how she was beside herself with breastfeeding pain and problems in the early weeks, and her husband said "let's just call one of these LC's mobile phone numbers!" and she said "But it's 8.30 on a saturday night!". He said "Well she doesn't have to pick up if she doesn't want to!"... so he rang, and she gave advice on the phone, and came to see them the following day, and my friend is sooo grateful that her DH gave her the final push to seek help.

HUGS