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  1. #1
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    Dec 2005
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    If they want you to water and keep the lawns green, then let them know they will need to stipulate that in the lease when the renewal comes up. The wording of the lease is very important. Remind them that saying 'to keep lawns and gardens maintained at all times' does not necessarily mean to keep lawns green at all times. And insist that if this is what they want, they can provide the hose at the same time.

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    Dec 2006
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    maintaining lawns, imo, is ensuring they are kept mowed and neat - NOT watering. watering grass is a wasteful exercise when water is already in short supply. provided the grass is dying off naturally and not from you parking vehicles on it, i would fight it. if their expectation is to have it watered, i would put it to them that they supply water tanks or grey water systems to facilitate this as it is wasteful and not required

    as to the rest of the gardens - yeah, it's fair to keep them alive and watered within reason. if they are elaborate gardens, they should be ensuring someone is there to prune them correctly on a semi-regular basis (if we rented this house out, we'd pay for someone to maintain the roses every year so that they were pruned properly)

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    In Melbourne, i thought it was illegal (Under the 3A water restrictions) to water your lawns unless its from your own water tank?

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    In Melbourne, i thought it was illegal (Under the 3A water restrictions) to water your lawns unless its from your own water tank?
    That all depends on where you are. Danni is in Adelaide. Have no idea what restrictions, if any are there. We have none here. Floods every 3 months instead

    Oh & these floods we are having & our front lawn is still patchy! Still looks brown & horrible. I only worry about the back really. Coz of the kids. Rain helps here majorly though!
    Last edited by ~clover~; December 4th, 2009 at 08:27 PM.

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    I'd be checking your water supplier for the current water restrictions .. and if they are not sufficient to maintain a lawn, then request a grey water system to maintain the same lawn!

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    my post (two above) covers the water restrictions that Daniellabella is living under.

    up to recently, it was twice a week (6-9am). Just recently it was changed to 5x a week, an hour each time.

    but because we have been under water restrictions for years, and used to hearing gloomy reports about how low the dams are, our water usage is still not high (as a city) even know restrictions have been eased (after a few big rains - big for here, small for other parts of australia), most people are just too scared to waste water i think - with good reason.

    the city is mainly built on clay soils, so if properties are not kept watered, in many areas, this has an impact on the house too, (cracking of the walls).

    sales of drought tolerant plants and synthetic lawn have gone up astronomically here.

    even desert plants in my garden, like aloe vera and agaves, are so heat stressed it's not funny. Many of my succulents have either died or look so sick.

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    Oct 2007
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    From a landlords perspective (don't shoot me).....having lawns maintained to me means that they are kept the way they were when the owner (or previous tenant - subject to landlords satisfaction) left them. With my house and gardens in Perth, we pay for the lawns to be mowed and edged once a month (will change very soon) and expect only the garden beds, plants and grass to be weeded and watered. That is very clearly stipulated in our Lease. If you're a tenant who is not a gardener, then perhaps don't rent a house with a garden and save yourself the hassle!

    Our house has bore water though, and a timer which we set to come on on our watering days for 10 minutes each station.

    I don't particularly care whether the tenants don't maintain it to my standard while they are living there (and I can't see it) but I sure as hell expect to see it back the way I left it before I get it back for myself. If the tenant doesn't maintain it, then it only means harder work for them IYKWIM, so it's easier to do it than to fight and faff around asking for this and that. That's just me though and I'm a gardener!

    As far as the hose, we left ours with the house, and expect it to be there when we get back. If I was a tenant in a house without a hose, I'd just go out and buy one of those ones for the grass that you lay there with the holes in it (or a regular one, whatever tickles your fancy)....but it would stay mine and I'd take it with me. No one gets anything for free!

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    i'm a keen gardener, use buckets of water from the shower and bath to keep my garden alive, and i had about 80% of my plants DIE during our recent heatwave.

    it's not realistic to keep a garden GREEN in the summer weather conditions we have in this city.

    lawns need regular mowing to stay nice, they're a high maintenance garden plant and many varieties are very thirsty. Up to recently, it's only been legal to water here twice a week anyway.

    i'm not sure your lease agreement is REALISTIC, but it's in writing, it's a legal document.

    i hope the photo they took a week before you moved in, tallies with how the place looked when you moved in (not a photo taken YEARS before for example).

    You can rectify the pruning (you're paying to get a gardener to do that), but i don't know how you can make a "lawn" of weeds, look like lush lawn by January, unless it all gets ripped out and new lawn is put in. And you don't know what the weather will be like for the next month anyway. Last few years MOST of summer here has been heatwave conditions.

    i don't think your RE person or landlord is being realistic. you live in the driest state in teh driest continent, this is not northern hemisphere with heaps of rain!

    whether you're a gardener or not, 43 degrees kills alot of garden plants. Heaps of mine turned into potato crips in one day - kaput.