PZ it would take me longer to drive to Coles than it would to walk when I lived in Windsor. But I can get from hoddle to my house in less than 15 mins off peak. 30 minutes peak.

I spent more time in annoying traffic when living inner city than I ever do where we are now. And I'm pretty central to everything. And everything is weirdly 30 mins from us. We very rarely need to travel longer than 30 mins to get anywhere.