thread: Am I weird for not liking this termionolgy???

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  1. #1
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    Jan 2006
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    I hate "natural" birth with a passion. I have a "natural birth" box ticked on my latest smear test - I gave the nurse a glare when she asked if I had a natural birth until she changed it to "vaginal".

    If what I had was natural I don't know how you others had anything worse!

    BTW, I can say "vaginal birth" but when DS pointed in the bath last night and asked "what's that?" I was happy with "nipple" and "belly button" but vagina? That had a big um and er in front of it. I have no idea why I'm not comfortable with that word as with talking about birth I'm fine with it! But to a toddler... shouldn't be weird, should it?

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    Nov 2007
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    I am a bit literal so I think of natural birth as birth free from any intervention, drugs etc. I had a vaginal birth and would correct anyone if they said I had a natural birth given I was induced and had an epi. I would say not natural but vaginal yes.
    Natural does mean "produced by nature" so I wouldn't say that being induced meant my birth was produced by nature..unfortunately.

    I too would love to read your birth story!!!

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    No, I don't think you're weird Dee!

    The thing is that, by implication, using the term "natural" implies that anything else is "unnatural" and I don't know anyone who would instantly choose "unnatural". Natural = good, pure. Unnatural = not good. That's just the way language works.

    Having said that, I also think it's natural after a very long labour to want to try/do something else.

    I would challenge anyone to have my labour (or yours) and NOT have an epidural or other interventions. I really would. I guess that's why I actually feel very proud of my labour. I feel like I did an absolutely tremendous job and I don't think that someone who had a 12 hour drug free labour can really compare. But that's the whole point - we shouldn't compare. We can't and we shouldn't.

    As I've said before, my obstetrician told me that it's the length of the labour that determines whether a woman has interventions. Not her pain threshold, not her determination, not her willpower ... simply the length of the labour and we can't (really) influence that.

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    Ryn as few weeks ago DD told an elderly lady on the bus that "when i came out mummy's tummy it was ok and the doctor didn't have to cut because i came outta vagina". I resisted the urge to say i was a babysitter...lol. This was all off the back of a friend showing me her c-section scar and us talking about our births together when we thought the kids weren't payig any attention.

    Is it maybe because he's a boy? I taught DD all te "correct" words as part of my mission to protect her from sexual abusebut i admit it did squick me out a bit hearing her say "penis" the first few times (not that we say "penis" a lot in my house!).

    Bx

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    Wow.....wow....wow

    For once I am lost for words .... doesn't happen often

    I don't even know where to start - I am so floored by the posts here and the overwhelming support -got me all teary....

    I have a birth story posted .... but don't know how to post a link but it's in there somewhere.... if someone can tell me how to post it I will for anyone who wants to read it....

    Thankyou to you all - your all freakin amazingly wonderful
    xoxoxoxox

  6. #6
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    Here ya go Dee

    Dee's birth story

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    Thanks babe - glad your a bit clueier than me

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    Nov 2007
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    Dee I just read ur birth story..what an amazing story..yes certainly not boring!!!! How tough are you!!! And I think (if you wanted to) you could use the term natural when talking about your birth. You went into labour "naturally" and laboured "naturally" for a long time!!!! I would say your labour/birth would be more natural than mine which was medically intervened with from the start!!

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    Oct 2006
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    I agree with GothMum - I think people are afraid to use the word vagina TBH, I didn't consider my c/s as "unnatural" until I read this thread, I guess technically it is, but I'm ok with it. Mainly because the reason I had a c/s was placenta praevia and there was no avoiding it.

    I must admit, I enjoy people squirm or look uncomfortable when they ask me "So, are you having another c/s then?" and I say "Nope, vaginal birth". Then they look at me like I'm a crazy woman and I leave it at that.

    So, Dee, I don't think it's weird at all and your birth story is lovely. Seems like you had plenty of natural elements in your labour