Bec, I know what you mean. I think what is being said though isn't that the birth isn't important - it SO is important. But just that (& I'm sure we all agree) that the baby is the most important thing. But yes, I do agree, the birth is a very important part, particularly to the woman. I know that this next birth for me is going to be a huge hurdle, both physically & mentally and it is very important to me that the experience is a more positive one.