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  1. #1
    2013 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    Apr 2009
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    Parenting payment partnered?

    Just wondering if anyone knows the maximum and minimum amount you can receive on PPP? I have recently applied as my baby bonus has stopped and although I feel ready to return to work DH can't manage with baby DD yet. We were told that because we have 2 large assets there is a good chance we wont be entitled to any suppliment despite our combined income going to be well below $30,000 for this financial year. If we aren't not entitled to anything does anyone know if you can get a health care card but not the suppliment? Even that would help alot. This week alone we have spent more then $100 on medication for DH and 2 out of my 3 kids.

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Mar 2011
    Brisbane's Southside
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    I am not exactly sure sorry, but I think you are right - you can get a health care card without getting any payments. Your yearly income would allow you to get the family tax benefit though, are you getting that?

    The centrelink website has a good calculator on it that you put in all your details and it gives you a pretty close estimate to what your entitled to.

    Good luck!!

  3. #3
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    Dec 2007
    Geelong
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    We have assets hun and still receive the maximum PPP. Hopefully BG will pop in and clear this up for you.

    Regards,
    Dianne

  4. #4
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    Thanks for your replies. Ash yes I do receive FTBA and B which helps alot but isn't enough to pay all the bills. Really feeling it financially at the moment. I told work I can do 4hrs but they haven't called yet and I think because I can't do a full shift yet they just wont call me and are putting people on overtime instead.

    Thanks DS. I think because we have a 2nd home (we plan on moving there and selling the home we are currently in) thats why they said we may not be entitled to any other financial suppliment. I've only just lodged the forms today so time will tell I guess.

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Sep 2009
    Melbourne, VIC
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    if your income estimate for FTB is below the cut off to receive maximum rate ($46335) you are automatically entitled to a Health Care Card.

    Parenting Payment Partnered is income AND asset tested - for a couple who live in a home they own or are paying off, the maximum net value of their OTHER assets (i.e. investment properties, shares, managed investments, money in the bank, race horses, taxi plates etc etc) must be under $265,000 to be entitled to Parenting Payment. If you are under this limit, you qualify based on assets, but are still subject to the fortnightly income test which is as follows (bear in mind this will include any rental income you currently receive):
    * For maximum payment, your income must be no more than $62 per fortnight, and your partner's income no more than $826 per fortnight.
    * Your income reduces your payment by 50 cents for each dollar between $62 and $250, and by 60 cents for each dollar above $250 per fortnight.
    * Your partner's income up to $826 per fortnight has no effect. Income over this limit reduces your payment by 60 cents for each extra dollar.
    * A part payment may be payable if you meet all the following conditions:
    o your income is less than $825.67 per fortnight, and
    o your partner's income is less than $1,558.33 per fortnight, and
    o your combined income is less than $1,651.67 per fortnight.

    The maximum rate of Parenting Payment Partnered is $439.40 per fortnight and tapers from there based on your fortnightly income as above.

    If your DH isn't working, or is working minimal hours, he may also be entitled to claim a payment like Newstart Allowance.

    Hope that helps xx
    Last edited by e_p; November 4th, 2011 at 11:51 AM.

  6. #6
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    Jun 2007
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    Hey Mildez.. I recently started to get PPP as DH changed jobs to a local job that didnt pay enough to pay the bills! I have just gone back to work though because even with PPP it just wasnt enough, but I have my print out... here are some figures

    If you own your home and your combined assets exceed $265,000 then you wont receive anything

    If you dont own your home your assets cant exceed $400,000

    If your DH earns MORE than $1558.34 BEFORE tax per FORTNIGHT you will receive nothing

    After that there is a sliding scale... up to 1400 a fornight and you get like $100, up to 1300 a f/n you get like $155 and so on and so on...

    Now for us, DH is a casual, and some weeks he scrapes to where I would get nothing, but other weeks I would still have gotten something (if i didnt get a job) But before my application was accepted I had to show payslips from his work showing that I would be ellidgable (spelling, sorry lol)

    Two days after I got accepted for the PPP I got a job, and I now still have to report both out incomes, and even the weeks that I would have gotten something because DH didnt make up to the $1500, I dont get anything coz I made money- BUT it was worth it because I get other beneifts from being on it (which i will technically be for 12 weeks of zero payment- if i get any payment between now and then, the 12 weeks starts again) like the HCC. Its nice to know its there, as we are both casual and if something happens to one of us then we know there is an avenue for the extra money (although as I discovered when DH was off sick and got barely any pay I didnt get anything because I got paid lol I think there should be a different way of calculating like a combined income rather than the way it is with both parents working. If our incomes had been swapped, like if I had earned what DH earned and he had earned what I did- I would have gotten like $300, but because it wasnt I got nothing!- Sorry my complaint there!!!)

    As for the HCC though.. if your DH's income is less than $42,000 a year you are elidigble for one. I didnt realise this and when I went to estimate our income when DH got his lower paying job I still wanted to overestimate and went with 50k on the computer at home (a combo of what he had already earned in the high paying job this financial year and what he would get with the new job), and when I went into the office the lady explained that I should actually work it out because if its less than the $42k I get the HCC. So i figured it out and worked it out to be roughly $35k, so I made it 40k.. then within two days it all changed coz I got a job but I was lucky I went on it for the two days between me joining and me getting a job, coz now I still have the HCC for another 2 months or so!!

    Ohh and the other thing to consider is that the PPP is a TAXABLE income, so it means with the FTB part B, where if your a stay home mum your income is zilch and you get the full amount, if you get PPP you have to include that in your combined family income estimate which will effect your FTB.

    So i guess it comes down to what your DH is making and whether your entitled to it. It is a lot of messing around to GET it to begin with, and honestly its not alot of money- unless your Dh earns around $900 a fortnight, and then you get about $400 a fortnight. We worked out that yes, it would have helped us in the short term, to keep us with minimal food in the cuboard, but that for us we had to chose between DH traveling for work and working huge hours and never seeing the kids, or I had to look for work. I was really lucky and got a job that I can do nights and weekends so DH is home with the kids, and two days that the kids are in childcare (but they are 3 and 1, not young bubs) and because of night and weekend penalites.. some weeks I make more than DH working less hours We have more family time and more money than if he had just worked and I got the PPP.

    Good luck with it, I hope it all works out for you to be able to feel financially stable again xoxox

    But that is us and our circumstances. I dont know if i could have left a young bub to go to work, and I dont know what your DH's job is or if you will actually really appriciate the extra cash, but fo rus, the $50 odd a week, wasnt enough to help.

  7. #7
    2013 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    Apr 2009
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    Thanks for your replies. Its all so confusing. My DH is a tradesmen who works for himself. His a plasterer so say he renovates a room and gets $1000 for a supply and fix job maybe $400 of that is with materials (gyprock, plaster, tape etc) last financial year his taxable income was $21000 but gross income was $50,000 this is the part I dont understand. We almost own the home we live in which will be sold in the next 6-12months and then our other property we owe the lot. It doesn't have a tennant in it as we are about to move into it so this place can be painted and then sold. DH also has quiet a sum of money in his account as he needs alot to run his buisness. If he plasters a new home he may need $10000 worth of materials then it takes him 6weeks and often he doesn't get paid until a month after his finished. So currently his been paid recently so his account looks healthy but then he may go for 3months without getting a cent. I have a job to return to as a midwife as soon as DH can manage DD. We wont put her in care as 2 kids in care is just not worth the amount we pay out in child care, then the loss of income from the kids getting sick etc. Now the baby bonus is over my direct debits aren't covered by the amount of FTB I get (insurances, preschool fee's and rates) DH is really feeling the pressure and I want to return to work but I think they will put way to much stress on him it doesn't seem worth it this year. My pumpkin plants are just not growing fast enough or producing anything to eat yet lol.