thanks guys..

i actually did some google research (gotta love google lol)

And found this, which i found REALLY interesting.... ill link to it here

PREGNANCY-BIRTH Messages for March, 2001: Re: Ovulation pain timing

but one lady here says after charting using other methods, not just going by O pain, she realised she had her pain 3-4 days before she ACTUALLY ovulated!!!!! Which makes ALOT of sense... cause this cycle i had that pain on CD10.. which i thought was oooober early as normally it is around cd13-14. Som maybe, thats why... and IF thats the case, my DPO are not right, and could be why i am having BFN's... (ofcourse i very well could just not be UTD :P )

FASCINATING all of this ey...