The timing sucks too ds is going to 3yo community kinder next year to endure he gets a place in the 4yo program but one session starts at 8.30 its a huge pita when you have to get to school and find a car park. Dd2 has two 8.30 starts hate them with a passion. I keeping ds at day care one day a week next year just so I can get things done as two 2 hour sessions aren't very beneficial for me.