thread: did i overreact??

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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Feb 2006
    NSW Central Coast
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    At the centre I am in, we are the people who deal with enquiries and stuff. I don't know if it's the case at this centre, some do have admin assistants and such, we do as well though only for minimal hours each week, but it is the staff that deal with this sort of stuff at our centre.

    And RHF, yes we (caregivers and teachers) would often much prefer to be with the children too, but sadly (in australia anyhow) we are getting to be so tightly regulated and required to write every little thing down that it is getting to be that there is less time for us to simply sit and play and care for the children.
    For example, our organisation has recently brought in a breathing checklist where we have to check each baby under 18months every 10mins when they are sleeping to make sure they are breathing. Yes we should be doing this anyhow, but to have to write it down and to drop what you're doing every 10mins to physiclaly go into the nursery (can't just look from the window or door) to check on the children...half the time we are accidentally waking them up. It's such a PITA!!
    Sorry completely off topic.....

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Jan 2006
    8,369

    Yup, new legistlation here about writing every little thing. Accident reports, OK, but achievement reports? National curriculum for a baby? I dont NEED a record of "Liebling can use three-word sentences to give commands: on 1/6/9 (today) Liebling was playing with a car, Charlie Brown came over and Liebling said "Charlie, play car"." - tbh, you'll tell me this anyway when I pick him up so why does the government need a record of it?

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Dec 2006
    between the mountain & the ocean
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    well in my opinion, if they can lie about having a spot available for ds, what else are they gonna lie about?? It just makes me sooo mad when people are dishonest, especially when it is supposed to be someone i am to trust to take care of my son for a few hours on a monday!!

    Lulu: yes i thought that too, but when it came to the lying about the space available, that is what did it for me. And i also gave them 3 chances to get the info pack to me, i gave them the benefit of a doubt that they were probably busy with the kids but i think they just couldn't be bothered and they told me it was lost in the mail (i find it hard to get lost 3 times in the mail)


    It is a centre where they don't have admin staff, its usuallly the director that does it or one of the other carers.

    So i already told them to forget it so i guess that is what my decision is, i will have to send him somewhere else. I am going to check out the other one on Thursday.

    thanks for all your replies

  4. #4
    BellyBelly Member
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    Dec 2008
    Paradise. QLD
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    are we even thinking that 5 weeks ago, which is what it roughly was there WAS a spot available?

    i know that i rang up enquired at 5 centres all have availabilities by the time i got back to some to confirm and book in orientation the spot had gone.

    yes its a PITA, but being with a child care centre who just changed hands and is now changing to CCMS isntead of CCB, it is annoying things arent going as smooth as before and its horrible some weeks, it took me 6 weeks to get a statement saying i had paid x amount.

    these people are under stress, they are being yelled at from every side.

    im sorry you got stuffed around. no it isnt right, they should of followed it up with you they shouldnt of filled teh spot till they heard back from you. but this is the ideal world not teh actual world we live in.

  5. #5
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    Aug 2008
    Ouiinslano
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    So, you'd love my centre....
    - We don't send out information packs at all. You want one, come and get one. I have a 300 place waiting list. If you want the spot so bad, work for it!
    - When there's a spot available, you get 72 hours to take it. We call 10 people off the waiting list at a time, and the first one who wants it gets it.

    Yeah, it sucks, but we're in such demand that we just don't have time to care. A lot of our time is taken up by people ringing up and saying "I wonder if you have a place for my 11 month old for next week?" (AS IF!) and then getting on the waiting list and thinking they can change their place on it by repeatedly phoning and badgering us about it (does not work)
    But the vast majority of our time is taking caring for and supporting the families who already use the service. And keeping up with miles and miles of rules and regulations - if you don't like them, talk directly to the Govt, not us. They're more likely to listen to families - there's more of you that vote.

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Jan 2008
    In a land of bubbles and trouble
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    well in my opinion, if they can lie about having a spot available for ds, what else are they gonna lie about?? It just makes me sooo mad when people are dishonest, especially when it is supposed to be someone i am to trust to take care of my son for a few hours on a monday!!

    So i already told them to forget it so i guess that is what my decision is, i will have to send him somewhere else. I am going to check out the other one on Thursday.

    thanks for all your replies
    I think you had already made your made up that you hadn't overreacted before even posting???

    Perhaps it shoulda been a Punching Bag vent

  7. #7
    BellyBelly Member

    May 2005
    Brisbane
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    I suppose different centres have different rules. In my experience you have to pester and badger the Directors to get a place. Some centres even recommend that you do. I make a habit of calling monthly just to make contact and let them know I am still interested.

    As an example, I waitlisted my son about 3 - 4 months ago for 4 days a week. I rang a few months later and was told they had a place coming up and to ring back in a week. When I rang back was told the 4 days were available and she would get back to me with more details. I visited the centre a few days later only to be told the place was not available as the toddler was not being moved up. Fair enough. That was almost three weeks ago, I rang today to be told they could offer me 2 days. I am absolutely going to take it and build up the days. Something is better than nothing. Point is she didn't ring me, so if I hadn't pestered I wouldn't have anything. Sometimes you just need to go after what you want.

    With the centre DS is at currently I pretty much jumped the queue as I called at the right time.

    In all the waitlists I have been on I rarely get called to confirm that I am still requiring care and and only once or twice offered a spot.

    I totally value the quality of the care over everything else including admin, the look of the building and even the cost.

    Anyway, thats my 2cents worth.

  8. #8
    Registered User

    Aug 2008
    Ouiinslano
    5,303

    I suppose different centres have different rules. In my experience you have to pester and badger the Directors to get a place.
    With the centre DS is at currently I pretty much jumped the queue as I called at the right time.
    I am that Director, and pesterers get labelled as such, we roll our eyes, spend less time with the children, and your spot on the list doesn't change.

    I wouldn't use a service where this does work, because it's not a professional way to manage a waiting list, so what else are tehy going to be unprofessional about?