Thanks Hoti, I really appreciate your thoughts and kind words. I have to admit, I'm a bit teary over the whole thing. Not sure whether its preg hormones or just feeling of guilt that I'm not doing something that I should be. I got given a chart and these are the figures:
I have made an appointment with the mothers and babies clinic at the hospital who have mw/lc's etc to chat to about things as the pead appointment isn't until October. But apparently as she has dropped more than 4 bands on the scale, we are classified as urgent and on the waiting list. I think seeing the MW at the clinic will help me feel better but right now, I just feel really sick about it. I tried to tell the gp I thought she wasn't putting on weight because she was sick but he said he thinks she is sick because she has low weight. Go figure.
So sorry Star, what a shock for you. Your idea of a food diary is a good one though, so you can say to pead this is exactly what she eats every day. Doctors like that kind of thing because then they have a rough idea of the calories she is taking in daily. It is something they can strike off the list straight away iykwim? Has your GP ever taken any blood tests to see what her immune function is like?
Thanks LC, I will do the food diary I think. I just don't want to seem like a psycho parent. Before I saw this GP today, no one has ever said anything about her weight, let alone BT's etc etc. The Gp today mentioned BT but said that the pead would do that if he thought it was neccessary. I said "some kids are just small right? I was a very small child" and he said "yes, but we want to rule everything else out too."
I think a food diary including how much (and what) she drinks will give the paed a good head start anyway. If you or your DP are slight or were as kids then perhaps that is also worth noting also, if your parents have any info too that could help.
AB's can make your tummy pretty upset too so maybe that has not helped. Certainly if she seems to be eating lots and is happy and alert - minus the ear infections then surely that should make them happier??
One thing that may be relevant is not using low fat dairy etc - kind of the opposite to what most people do.
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ETA I have a friend whose 5yo has just hit 16kg and another whos 3yo twins were only 10kg at ~ 20months also so I think it is not unusual but worth following up ITMS
i would hazard that she is fine (bar all the lurgies poor poppet). fwiw, DD1 copped it a fair bit too as she is a wee thing. at almost 4 years old she has only *just* cracked the 14kg mark. i wouldnt think that her low weight is an issue in itself; it needs to be assessed in relation to all other factors (namely, mood eating, sleeping etc).
hopefully the paed will be able to giver the tick of good health
The extended illness could easily account for slow weight gain But what a worry for you.
It sounds to me like she is doing very well. I would certainly be looking to get a second opinino - your GP sounds like he has made a bit of a snap judgment, but it is good to be sure of thibgs,
My DS was 4.29 at birth and barely passed 9kg at 12 months, so he dropped a lot on those scales too.
DD was FTT from 2 months till 8 months (when she had consistent gains, rather than losses ) and we kept a food diary, and i took Domperidone to boost my supply and BF every 2 hours during the day.
Shes 14 months and 10kg, after weighing 4kg at birth, (dropped to 3.5kg at 1 week)
She was sick recently and lost 500g, but we've finally got the weight back on! The Paed has NEVER suggested that she was sick due to low weight, but he put ME on bedrest and back to exclusive BF until she could tolerate solids again.
Shes only the 3rd % for weight but the 97th% for height.
Im not sure if your LO was FF (or if formula is more calorie dense than cows milk?) but Id reintroduce a BF/FF each day, as well as adding avacado, fish and olive oils to her diet.
Trishalishous - I BF DD until 6 months and then expressed until 10 months and she was on formula for 2 months and now cows milk. We give her 2 lots of 200mls of milk/day but sometimes if she has a super big meal she won't drink all of the milk. I will def start adding avocado and other oils to her diet - thanks for the tip.
MadB - DD really loves childcare and she's only there 2 days a week now so I don't really want to pull her out. I half suspect the MCHN might tell me not to worry at all about the weight gain and when my normal GP comes back from his holidays I'll make an appointment with him to get the 2nd opinion.
Trillian - I started her on probiotics a few weeks ago and I'll keep it up. Thanks for the tip because at least I know I'm on the right track, I was wondering whether I was just wasting my time with the probiotics.
Rivlas - I know! That's the thing, no one has ever said anything about her weight to me before.
Feeb - thanks for your comments, now that I have calmed down a little bit I feel a bit better and that it's probably better to be safe than sorry.
Cass - thanks hun. Xx
Mak - I was a really tiny kid so I think genetics might have something to do with it. Good point.
Sterla, RB, Alligator - thanks so much ladies. I really appreciate your thoughts and support. It's great to hear from people who have been in this position and to hear the outcomes and what happened.
If I have missed anyone, my apologies. I love belly belly for this reason. It is such a comfort.
Miss X has been sick for ages and she has started walking, and she has continually been putting on weight. "Try" not to stress about the appointment too much, I'm sure they just want to check her over and make sure everything is okay.
Like the MCHN and drs always told me with P, DH and I aren't big people or have big builds, so P isn't going to be either and as long as they are happy alert and meeting milestones, it doesn't matter if their weight gain is rapid. Is X in proportion with her height and weight?
Also, a friend was told to give her 15month old sustagen (sp?) to help with her weight gain
I think you need to consider that she hasn't lost weight - she has consistently gained, just not quickly. I think that says something. If she was FTT I would think that she wouldn't be gaining at all. You have said she is happy and healthy - not lethargic. Also I think a mum is the first person to get an idea that something is wrong, not a dr. You are with her all the time, if something wasn't right you would notice! And JFYI my youngest is constantly sick (ear infections every fn) so is on AB a lot and when they irritated her tummy she stopped eating, so if there was something wrong with her tummy I would think she wouldn't want to eat, which isn't the case!
I hope the MCHN helps to calm your fears though but I say if mummy instinct says she is fine she probably is!
I just wanted to post an update in here about what has happened since I started this thread. I decided to go and see the midwife at the hospital and get her opinion on everything including getting her to check my food diary which I'd kept for about a week. It's $30 but I really wanted another opinion and this is the same midwife that we saw until DD was 6 months old so I have complete faith in her and wanted her opinion. Anyway......she weighed X and she was 9.7kg!! That's 1.4kg more than the GP had weighed her at the week before. There is no freaking way DD could have put on that amount of weight in one week, the measurement must have been simply incorrect. GP weighed her by getting DH on the scales, then getting DH to hold DD and subtracting. The midwife was really annoyed as it turns out she is on the 25th percentile for weight and length and 50th for head. She said that is perfectly fine and looked at our food diary and said that was great for a toddler her age and the GP clearly doesn't understand about genetic disposition (I think that's the word) and him saying that due to her birth weight she should be 10kg was just wrong. So I left feeling SO MUCH BETTER. You guys had all already made me feel heaps more confident about the whole thing but now knowing that her weight is okay I feel so so relieved.
I was refered to the pead for FTT at 9 months (well DD2 was) And now at 19 months she has just hit 8.6kg. We got a diagnosis of Cystic Fibrosis in April but that was after alot of testing. She was tested for coeliacs and many other things. It is possible that your LO has the gluten intolerance and she is small because of that
My DS basically didn't really gain any weight between 12-18 months, staying at around 10kg. It was at this time he also had sickness after sickness (it was during winter). However, after 18 months he started gaining again, and now at 2.5 years is 13kg.
It's good that your GP is being pro active in refereing you to a pead as so many don't.
It is good that baby is still gaining but the amounts need to be more, slow weight gain is 1 thing as long as they are following curve on the growth chart BUT to drop 4 centiles on chart is a concern, it might be the fact she is using energy to fight infection etc or it might be some under lying issue, you have allready mentioned your intolerance to gluten, may be that may be coeliacs or something else.
No harm in keeping a food diary and its a very good idea to chat with your health nurse
I went and got DD2 book from over 20 years ago and at 12 months she was only 9.450kg and at 2 11.8kg. She was a very active child. Nothing was ever said about her weight as she ate well and was growing.
Remember every child grows differently so it's not fair to lump them all in the same basket.
I don't like the correlation between birthweight and weight as they grow. Some women grow beautiful babies in the womb, but once they are out, they grow as they are meant to grow. If it were me, I'd be looking at her immune system as the cause of the problem - being sick time after time seems to me like her immune system is really low - otherwise she'd not get sick all the time. By all means go to the paed to rule out an actual medical cause (because it could be an intollerance?), but in the meantime, I'd be looking at ways to support her immune system because the gut is the key to so many health problems. Perhaps start with a probiotic made for children and see if it helps at all.
I think what Trill says about growth rates is exactly right.
I don't suppose you have any other childcare options? FDC even (so exposed to fewer kids)?
I think you can look at a few positives...she is gaining (it may be slowly but she is gaining), she is happy and healthy, she is developing well and she is eating so getting nutrients.
DS4 is/was FTT, he is currently 7.3kg at 18mths (he has not been on the charts for a long time). We have had every test under the sun to see if there is a problem...tested for CF, metobolic disorders etc.
We are under a dietitian at the hospital and have been for some time.
They got really concerned when he started losing weight...but at the moment our pead is reasonable happy because he is happy, healthy and doing well developmentally...just tiny
He seems to have a fat intolerance and that may have something to do with it.
I really understand your concern and but she may just be a little girl with a really good metabolism.
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) and we kept a food diary, and i took Domperidone to boost my supply and BF every 2 hours during the day.
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