Cloth Nappies #183

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[Gigi]

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Got 2 bumwear pockets but I don't know if I trust them as they seem really light weight. Anyone else used these? Will give them a go but might have to invest in some boosters.

with pockets, the pocket SHELLS are light, just made out of PUL, so that's fine. They dry fast (good).

it's what you STUFF the pockets with, that makes all the difference.

e.g stuff them with a thirsty bamboo trifold, that will beef them up. e,g the peapod bamboo inserts,

(every brand calls them something different (foldups, inserts, trifolds etc)
but the guts of it is, you should see
- two layers of bamboo
- shaped like a rectangle
- you fold it in three, to a width that is as WIDE as the NARROWEST part of the nappy's pocket cavity. sounds more complicated than it is. You are making the trifold into a pad.

the "quiet achiever" of mcn is the ABSORBENT fabric used.
boosters, inserts etc are nonglam, so it's easy to forget to buy those.
not as exciting as nappy outers are they? cos you don't see them.
but really, the success of a nappy can largely come down to, the type and amount of absorbency HIDDEN in that nappy.

some pockets come with a microfibre insert, but for most kids, that won't be enough for their entire nappying life. My bilby needed more than that in the first six months, but maybe she was a super wee-er.

but you can't go past, a good stash of bamboo trifolds. so useful. esp with stuffing pockets.

Having said all that, PUL does come in varying grades.
Have a look at a site that sells nappymaking supplies to see what i mean.

you can get 1mm PUL (like berry plush covers use)
you can get 2mm PUL (most commonly used)
you can get sandwich PUL (two layers stuck together), that's the one that baby beehinds PUL covers are made out of)
you can get cotton laminated PUL (that happy heiny and greenkids suggests you use as day nappies only)
you can get poly laminated PUL
you can get minky laminated PUL

(all this trivia in my head, pity i coudln't have trivia in my head that was useful, like to win me lotsa money on a quiz show!)

[Ryatha]

oooh new thread. just subscribing...

[CrazyLady]

with pockets, the pocket SHELLS are light, just made out of PUL, so that's fine. They dry fast (good).

it's what you STUFF the pockets with, that makes all the difference.

e.g stuff them with a thirsty bamboo trifold, that will beef them up. e,g the peapod bamboo inserts,
)

Thanks for the info, new to pockets as i've been using AIOs mostly. Came with a terry microfibre insert thingo but my daughter is miss piddlesalot so that's why i'm iffy. was eyeing off some bamboo trifolds to avoid mass floodage as I know she is quite capable of doing. On the bright side I know she is getting enough fluids

Editing with an afterthought. My little one hates her BBH and gets annoyed everytime I put them on, would it work to use those bamboo boosters for the time being? I mean coupled with the microfibre insert supplied. Saving as much cash as possible to buy furniture for the new house so we don't have to eat christmas dinner on the dining room floor

[1MOREPLZ]

just subscribing to the new fluffy thread....

eagerly awaiting some fluffy mail here....

[tk1999]

We went well in cloth yesterday but back in sposie overnight... bit of drama going on and yeah head is not right for cloth overnight.

We are out and about today - clinic visit etc but when we get home from that we will be back in cloth!

WOCB: sposie... until we are home from our out and abouts today

[Visitor8]

hey hey. Been a while since I popped in hey All is well, still in cloth, just found out we're PREGNANT!! Time to buy little fluff again!

[Gigi]

what i tried to post last night at 1.30am

Yes TK, you ARE smart. i failed "flats 101", so you are my new heroine.

MrsCAussie
"the GK looks good on so see how it goes definitely like the bamboo boosters over microfibre boosters. just one question...most pockets seem to have microfibre/suedecloth next to bubs skin, is that likely to cause her any irritations? to date shes been used to bamboo terry next to her skin. but then shes got a cold at the moment and teething a bit so the red dry rash shes got could be related to that too...its not overly sore looking just itchy atm which makes me wonder if it could be from the non-natural fibres!"

after reading that, this is wot popped into my skull
1. Greenkids have an inner layer of suedecloth
2. Most pockets have microFLEECE (not microFIBRE) or suedecloth as the stay dry layer.
Yes, that is 100% synthetic and some bubs react ONLY to suedecloth,
some bubs react to ANY synthetic fabric next to their skin (bilby did this from 14 months onwards).

3. a way to test this out, is to put your bub in nothing but NATURAL fibres against her skin for a day. Observe.
put your bub in nothing but SUEDECLOTH inners against her skin for a day. Observe
put your bub in nothing but MICROFLEECE inners against her skin for a day. Observe.
Stop using whatever she reacts to.

If your bub reacts to synthetic inners - there is a compromise - you could LIE INSIDE her nappies, natural fibre liners.
If she rashes everywhere the liner isn't, then you'll need to go further, e.g put in her in nappies with natural fibre inners/synthetic outers.
ANd an option further from that, is to put her into natural fibre nappies inside and out, with wool soakers for the waterproof bit. i had to go to that extent for bilbs. then after a few months, i gradually got her back to natural inners/synthetic outers. and to tolerate a staydry liner in her night nappy.

when i was totally fixated on fixing nappy rash (bilby had a REALLY bad outbreak at 14 months), i tried SO MANY things, and realised, it's not ONE thing that causes it, i was trying so many things, i couldn't wait to try ONE thing for a day and observe, i was so anxious to make her feel better. It was a combination of many things, that people advised me on, so i went about changing
- how i washed the nappies (washing powder, the amount used, long rinse cycle)
- how i changed bilby (patting her bottom dry with a dry facewasher, after cleaning her, leaving her bott naked for a few minutes to "air" the skin
- what fabrics i put next to her skin (avoiding synthetic once i worked out she did react to that)
- made new liners from natural fibres (flannelette and cotton velour)
- made sure i read the ingredients list on any product i put on her skin (bath stuff, hair stuff, rash stuff, EVERYTHING)
so it wasn't One Solution, rather a whole raft of things.

Ryatha
sidesnapping mcn fitted my child
- when she had chicken legs
- when she had three rolls of fat on each thigh
- when she slimmed down (once crawling/walking started)
that's why i think they are SO adjustable
cos my baby REALLY tested them out, by changing shape ALOT.
but she is also short
only hit 86cm when over 2.5years old.
A
Alioops - i've been wondering where you've been hiding! Bilbs and i would love to catch up with you and meet the newest member of your girl tribe at xmas.

Good work on finding a cream that helps Em's skin. what a relief that must be (for both of you!).

[*TripleJ*]

all i can say is baby safari stuff and snap i only washed them once and its lasting since 12 yay it might last till his lunch at 2

WOJB: baby safari stuff and snap light blue

[tk1999]

Aww thanks Gigi

Mmm question... do you think DD is becoming more aware of the urine next to her skin in changing over from sposies and it is waking her? I have noticed since we started in cloth during the day that if she goes down for a sleep in cloth she usually wakes after 20-30mins but if in a sposie she will sleep for approx 2 hours. At first I thought it was a stage she was going through of catnapping... she did catnaps all day one and two which were cloth days then slept longer at night when in sposies. The longer night sleeps aren't out of the ordinary for her so it could have just been that she wanted the longer sleep but then day three when she was in cloth it was catnaps again and then we had no cloth dry that would fit her so I put her in a sposie and she slept longer (just over 2 hours) do you think it was just luck she slept longer or is being wet waking her? Each time she wakes from the cat naps she is either wet or dirty.

Hope that long question makes sense LOL

WOCB: sposie - I am trying out my sleep theory again (so far she has been asleep for 50mins)

[Arimeh]

TK - depends what nappies they are - most of mine have the "stay dry" layer against their butt so unfortunately - mine are both just shocking sleepers.. LOL

[rhyb]

Aus post just rocked up and I have my multifits!! They look great cant wait to try em out on DS! Thanks Lea Eeeek Im off to my ultrasound BBL

[alioops]

TK - could be. just make sure you have stay dry inners.

FAK

Gigi - i want to go to ikea at some point and get more trains and a roll of drawing paper while we are down there, maybe we could meet there? I will have my mumma bus coz we are driving down so will have a bit more space this time than in SIL's daihatsu charade.

BG - our scales have died. I use the wii fit if I cant get somewhere with scales and i want to see how much the kids weigh. Leah gets monthly home visits anyway though so I dont worry about her with the amount she pees.

I am looking forward to mid november, checking out the other MCN in town at an expo. should be a great weekend.