The inserts are quite long - the boosters are shorter. I would probably go with the booster if it was me.
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The inserts are quite long - the boosters are shorter. I would probably go with the booster if it was me.
Definately the boosters. Too much bulk otherwise. ;)
ok, I have a question about nappy rash and MCN's - DD has a bit of a red bum at the moment due to teething, so how can I still keep her in MCN's? Is it true that I can't put nappy rash cream on her if she is wearing MCN's? What about if the nappy has a liner?
Trouble with some creams is that they can clog up a nappy. A liner is a good idea, that should help keep her butt dry, and a liner is easier to unclog or throw out than a nappy! So try a liner and go for it with the cream.
Kellie - you could try moogoo cream - thats safe - and I'm really impressed with it.
Hi again
Can someone tell me if I can use a Green Kids Bamboo Insert in the pocket of a pocket nappy?
Sorry for all the qu's!
Depends what pocket nappy you are talking about - like if its a good fit or not.. but yeah, if it fits well you can.
Re the cream, I've had heaps of people recomened paw paw ointment (in the yellow pot.)
Also there are two ingredients in many creams that colg the nappy. Zinc aaaannd..... something that my baby brain has just iliminated.
I'll edit the post when I remember.
I personally change the whole nappy regardless of whether he's done a poo or a wee. But I'm paranoid about nappy rash as we've had a couple of bad encounters!
Phew!! What a huge amount of info to take in!!! This cloth nappy business is very confusing to me!! MCN, AIO, to line or not to line!!! Lol!! Lots to learn!!
I used sposies for my first two pregnancies and would love to take the cloth nappy path this time around. I just have a few things that I would like to be able to clarify if you lovely ladies have time!!
Is it more cost effective?? Assuming that I can restrain myself and not become addicted to buying more and more, do you feel that it is considerably cheaper?
Where do I start?? What do I buy?? From the nappy itself to buckets, soakers, liners, etc. I am not sure if anyone has put together a list of essentials to get you started but that would be fab!! I just dont want to buy too many... obviously a newborn grows pretty fast so I am wondering how many to start with before I need to purchase the next size up. Also, what do you all do with the smaller sizes once they have grown out of them?? I am pretty sure you cannot sell used nappies on ebay???
I think I like the look of aio's. Seems to be less mucking around, but I assume that these are more exxy?? And take longer to dry??
Lots of questions!! Sorry! And I am sure there will be more... :redface:
Looking forward to your responses,
Meegs
Hiya Meegs. :)
More cost effective? It was when I started, with cheap Aldi nappies now, I dunno. Probably still is, but perhaps the margin isn't as great as it used to be. You're right though, it's the 'awww it's so cute, I want it' that gets us into trouble. Something helpful is to give yourself a limit, one 'special' nappy every x weeks/months.
As my stash is getting older now, I can recommend Baby BeeHinds fitted nappies. They really go the distance, and they're one size, so they should fit your bub from approx 4 weeks. Before that, you could use flat nappies (or prefolds), or sposies, while you and bub fall into your groove.
So - a one size is good, because bub won't grow out of them! Covers I like are the Motherease Rikki ones (gussets at the legs are very good for that newborn runny poop - I used to put covers over sposies when I knew a poop was brewing!). There are many good covers out there.
If you want one-size-fits-all pocket nappies (great for winter, when drying times are slower), some good brands are BumGenius (trim), Blueberry, GreenKids...there are lots out there.
If you want a few AIO's, that are easy to use, try looking at some Itti Bitti D'Lishes, or Baby BeeHinds MagicAlls. They can take longer to dry compared to pockets, but most have bits that fold or snap out, so they're better than they used to be. More exy though, and less cost efficient because they're sized. Which is why fitteds are good for the bulk of your stash.
Anyway, there are lots more out there, but I've just given you some to start looking at. The Baby BeeHinds store is a good place to look, as well as some of the online nappy superstores like Nurture Nappies, Darlings Downunder, The WeeWuns. There's lots more out there too, some googling should get you somewhere.
Meegs: Here's my suggestion from someone who still has a newborn-sized baby and has been happily using cloth since week 2.
The Basics for me:
2 Nappy buckets - I don't separate pooey /wet nappies yet but I guess I will when his poos are more solid. But having 2 buckets means I don't have to wash as often. I wash every second day.
12 Fleecy Cotton Flats - Buy these from Big W, they're like flannelette but more absorbent and very soft, but much much thinner than terry flats. They're easy to fold and with a PUL cover you don't need a safety pin, just close the cover over the top and it will hold in place. I use them at night time because they just work so much better than MCNs and never leak.
3 Small PUL Covers (newborn size won't last long) - Jude was a tiny newborn so the PUL covers were too big when I started out, but I found was that they didn't leak they just looked silly. I recommend Bummies with the leg gussets.
6 Pocket nappies - I started with 6 Bum Genius but now I have 8 BGs, however I bought them when they were $28 each, now they're $38 each. These nappies are one-size which means they grow with your baby from newborn up. They have a PUL cover and you stuff them with an absorbent liner which makes washing and drying easy.
20 Cheap Small Face Cloths - Keep about 10 on the go in a container (I use an empty disposable wipes container) with some water ready to use as wipes for nappy changes, instead of sposies, and then just wash them with the nappies.
That's all.
Ok so I posted this elsewhere, but wasn't sure if the thread had been superceded so thought I would add it here too:
Hi all,
I am very new to the whole nappy world - due in June and researching at the mo. Just from this thread i have learnt A LOT so thanks to you all. So aside from the whole which nappy, liner, cover etc to use I am actually equally as intrigued about the logisitcs of washing the darn things (the nappies that is!)
So, can you please impart your knowledge to me regarding your strategies to manage the poo - do you go for a liner (if so what type and why), do you put it straight into the machine poo and all, do you soak / drypail? What sort of wachine detergent do you use?
Is it any different for pre-folds, flats (terry or flannel).
I'm as concerned about water and detergent use as the impact of sposies in landfill, so need to know how you maximise your washing strategies to get the most done with as little water as possible.
Thanks
Lolly
Hi Lolly, welcome to the world of cloth!!
I have two in cloth full time.
I wash every second day - I do a pre-rinse in cold water, then a wash in warm water. I use the teeniest bit of detergent - I just use one like purity, or an eco one, or amolin or something - whatever is on special when I'm out!
With poop - we have a little squirt attached to the toilet. So we squirt all the poop down the toilet, and then dry pail.
We rarely use liners - but we did use liners when we went away. Apart from them sticking to poor DS' balls - they were quite handy... lol
Hi Ladies, well i have sat here and read this thread and am still feeling a bit confused about all the choices.
I have 3 pea pod nappies with night boosters (what type of nappies are these? )
I alos have just terry flats and some nappies that my Aunt made and got cheap from target which seem to be several layers of terry in the shape of a nappy with velcro (what are these called?) . I also have a couple of covers from Maz.
Ok so my little man is 7 months and weighs in and 9.5 kgs. I have decieded today that i need to go full on cloth with him. ( He is getting nasty rashes around his tummy and legs from sposies ).
so my question is , How do i use all the things i have. Can i put the inswerts from the peapods in Mazs covers as well or do they just go over the terrys, um what would you recommend for a night nappy etc.
Oh please help if you can I have no idea.
Hi Tan :)
Pea Pods are pocket nappies - so you stuff the boosters into the pocket - and you put as much as you need to for how much a wetter he is. I don't have any pea pods cos I didn't see any good reviews about them, so didn't buy them.
The terry shaped nappy sounds like a fitted nappy to me - if the outside of it feels like terry as well - so you'd need a cover over that - a maz cover would do fine. Just make sure it covers every bit of the nappy, otherwise you might get wicking.
I wouldn't put the inserts into the maz covers - if you were doing something like that, a prefold is better. Don't know if maz covers will fit over flats you'd have to ask her.
A good night nappy for a light/medium wetter is a baby beehinds fitted. I use wool covers up here over them - not theirs cos they react with the kid's skin - but ones like longies, shorties or soakers.
For heavy wetters (like DS) I use green kids pockets stuffed to the max, snoozywuns and bubblebubs good night sleep tight ones.
HTH :)
Ok, I want to start using cloth full time - I only use disposable at the moment and I like the idea of pocket nappies more than the others - they just seem easier, especially considering DD is in care 5 days a week as I work full time. DD is 13 months but I'd want to get a one size fits most nappy so I can use it for my next bub, considering how expensive they are.
How many would I need for full time?
How many boosters would I need in each nappy, particularlly at night? What are the best boosters and why?
Hi Danni :)
If you are after pockets - buy twice as many inserts as shells - works out cheaper that way cos the shells dry so quick.
As for recommendations - I like green kids (cos you can use them at night as well - and their inserts are wicked - even in other nappies - just so absorbent), happy heiny's are great too - very easy to stuff, bumg's give a great fit on even young bubba's, ecobubs are great and you could use the wool pockets at night too.
I'd say you would be right with, um 10 shells?
10 shells for full time? I thought it would be more. I work full time so I don't have time to wash nappies every day as well as the current nightly wash I do to make sure DH's clothes are clean for work the next day. I'd need to do nappies in a separate wash so was only hoping to wash them every 2nd or 3rd day.
HAHA.. typo...:redface:
I meant 20...
ROFL
:lol: I didn't think 10 sounded right
DH told me to start with enough for 1 day and see how I go after one day of using them before committing to using them full time. But he said that he's not changing cloth nappies (not that he does much anyway, he only changes nappies if I'm not home so I'll get sposies for JIC)
I don't know if changing a cloth nappy is any different than changing a sposie - men and their funny ideas huh!!!!
DH is really good here, he squirts poop off the nappies, even chucks them in the washing machine for me if I'm busy (although he has been adding too much washing liquid to them, didn't realise it until he came out last night and asked why there seemed to be a lot of white bubbles coming out of the nappies when he squirted them... bwahahaha)
LOL.
I think my DH's reason for not wanting to change them is he likes the idea that with a sposie you can just wrap it up and put it in a bag and into the bin. I told him about flushing a liner down the toilet but he would rather not have to handle a nappy more than he has to.
I have a couple of cloth pocket nappies around somewhere that I bought when DD was newborn but we didn't have the money to be buying them and sposies until I had enough cloth, now we have 2 incomes so we can gradually build them up. I'll have to get them out and start washing the boosters to build up their absorbancie and will get a few more when the Krudd bonus comes through.
Meh.. you tell him that cloth is just as easy. Tell him to whip a poopy one off and leave for you if its that much of a problem (I sometimes get DH to do this, cos he drives me mental sometimes with his swearing from the toilet!!) and he just has to dump the wet ones in a bucket - see - doesn't even have to wrap it up and bag it - that saves him time.. ROFL
Danni - Tell him that my DH finds them easier than sposies. And he is doing all the work (except putting them back together) atm. Snaps tend to stay done up better than sposies and considering Jazz's age it will take her longer to figure out how to remove the nappy ;)
I started with pockets. Then I went to all in 2s, which we use most of the time, cos doing up a couple of snaps can be easier than stuffing a pocket. Aren't you glad I never got around to buying the ones you bought originally off you?
Hi ladies,
I have been reading this thread for a while and have gotten a lot of advice from it - Thanks!!
I have decided to go with flats and covers. So far I have the following;
12 terry flats
6 flanelette flats
6 pre-folds
two mother-ease covers
disposable liners (but might go over to washable ones - DH a bit freaked out by the thought! ;))
My qu is how many covers will I need? I think I will get another 6 flanellette or should I get more pre-folds (or both!!).
Do I need snappy nappy thingos for the flanelette or just the terry or should covers (velcro style) be enough to hold it all together.
Thanks so much for any advice from those that have been there before!
Snappis don't always work with flannelette, there's not much to grab onto. I had pins, but often didn't need them, newies aren't that wriggly and you can just tuck the ends and put a cover over. Definitely get more flanelette flats because they're trimmer than terry for a newborn.
In my opinion you can't have too many flats or prefolds (well maybe you can, but it'd have to be heaps) - I use mine all the time for pee on the carpet, spilled drinks, dribble, spew, and all the other child related mess.
As for covers...you can rotate 2 a day, so 4, but you might want an extra or two if bub has a blowout. I think I start out with 2 eenees snibs, 2 Bummis original covers (not sure if they make these anymore)...and something else...can't remember. I had Motherease Rikkis but I'm not sure if they fit straight away. Maybe a Bummis in a different style. I had 5 or 6 anyway.
In a pinch, you can just rinse a cover and hang it to dry if you need it soon.
For covers, have a look at the weight ranges. They can vary from brand to brand, and even then it can vary, for example when I was buying for my first, the Bummis Original size S was smaller than a different Bummis size S.
Oh, and in terms of disposable liners, many people don't bother and just throw it all in the machine. It's not until the poop become a bit more solid that any liner will be effective.
Thanks so much Nelle, kitting out with flats isnt actually that expensive is it? I am happy to hear that a few more covers and flanelettes will be about right. Great.
One more thing (until I think of the next thing anyway) do you use pre-folds just straight into the covers? And do you fold them along the seam or across the seam into the size you need?
Rachel
You can fold them however works for you, they tend to be folded across the seam because the middle panel has more layers. I think if you click on my name and my 'homepage' option it should take you to some Nappy photos which have a bit of a prefolds 101 drawing. If you google prefold folds you should come up with something too.
And yep, snappied prefolds with a cover overtop. As bub got older and took longer between wee's, I'd boost the prefold with a bamboo or hemp booster, to prolong the life of the prefold.
Hi all,
I'm actually a motherinlaw who has been busy researching cloth nappies for my first grandchild(girl) due in late Sep. I have read this whole thread and have found it fantastic, most especially all your advice Nelle. I'm planning to buy the nappies for my daughterinlaw (she's happy to use cloth but is only thinking about using flats after using sposies for the first few days).
I am thinking of getting prefolds (size?) (and snappis) and some Big Softies (flannelette) to start with. I was also going to get some eenee snibs (size?) and Bummis original (size?) covers for the first few weeks. Also some other covers for after that like Tots Bots, Motherease Rikkis, Mazalicious (sizes?). Also I would get some bamboo and/or hemp boosters for a bit later for boosting the flats or prefolds. Also some BBH fitted (size?), Bumg (pockets or fitted? size?),Tots Bots (pockets or fitted?size?), Bambineo Mios (pockets or fitted?size?).
Depending on how it all goes, I (and daughterin law) can look at the next phase of options such as when baby is moving around more (fleece covers-brand?) and when she starts solids (microfleece liners). Purchase of AIOs, pockets, fitteds will depend on budget and DILs desire. She may want to stay mainly with flats/prefolds and covers.
I guess some flushable liners could be handy to have for some stages (tacky poops) and the microfleece liners for when on solids.
Any feedback greatly appreciated.
hi everyone,
ok so i have read thru this whole thread and im still confused!!! i have been doing y reserch on cloth nappies and i just brought two itii bitti AIO.
now after reading thru this thread people are saying that prefolds are good for newborns? and much cheaper than AIO etc which they are.
so i went looking at prefolds, im a bit confused as to how to use them!!:redface: do you need a cover for them? if so which ones are good? and do you need inserts for them? and how do you used inserts lol i feel like an idiot asking this.
How do you fold the nappies i have no clue!!!
please help if you can :D
Me again:) what do you use the bucket for? do you put them in the bucket with water until your ready to wash them in the wasing machine?
and what is pail drying haahahhaah im such a newbie!!
thankyou for listening!!
Hi GQ
Prefolds are awesome for newborns, I think I had about 6 when Miss M was a newby and I have about 18 now in prep for the next one. Yes you need a cover for them, I prefer my Mother-ease Rikki covers as they have leg gussets and seem to fit my chicken legged kids the best, plus they are awesome at keeping poops and leaks in. I never put an insert in my prefold, just folded, put it on, cover on - and away we go!
There are several ways you can fold it, you can twist it in the middle, and then put it under bubs, wrap the wings around and snappy. Or, you can fold it in three, and tuck the ends of the prefold under the flappy part on the inside of the cover (like mother-ease have flaps specifically for this reason). Or, I folded it in three, then flipped out the back to create wings, lay bub on it, fold up the part of the prefold between their legs so it doesn't go all the way to their chest (hehe), and then I wrap the wings around their belly so it touches the other part between their legs, and fasten with a snappi. Then put cover on. Easy peasy.
HTH!! :D
ETA - dry pailing is where you throw the soiled nappy into a nappy bucket with no water. They don't need water to soak in, just throw them in the washing machine and then hang out in the sun to help remove any stains and look all lovely again ;)
Just don't put it on backwards or upside down and you'll be alright ;)
where do you buy those snappi things??
I got mine from Big W near the nappy buckets, flat nappies etc. They were pretty cheap, I just got the happy baby brand.
My 3 month old baby girl has just started going the whole night without pooing, so I've stopped changing her at the 3am feed so we spend less time awake :)
I've just bought a heap of pockets and AIOs and want to use these at night instead of cotton terry flats. I put her in a Baby Beehinds pocket with one insert last night, but we had wee leakage that seemed to come through the waist elastic! Obviously I need to put in another insert, but does that mean I was doing it up too tightly or too loosely at the waist?
She's still pretty small (not yet 5kg), so am I better off sticking with the flats until she gets bigger?
I have a bunch of different brands, have people found any of these really good (or bad!) for night use?
Pockets - Cushie Tooshies, BBH, Happy Heinys, Haute Pockets, Pixie Poppits (all one-size)
AIOs - BBH, Imse Vimse, Itti Bitti (and a snap-in IB too).
Most of the pockets come with 2 inserts, but I thought the 2nd is for bigger babies - do I need to put both in to go 10 hours?
Thanks in advance!
With the baby beehinds bamboo - are you folding it down for the newborn fold? That can help in ensuring a perfect fit for young ones. I think I used that until Miss M was around 6 months actually.
As for adjusting to one or two inserts in pockets - totally up to your child and how much of a heavy wetter they are. Mine would always need two inserts.