Help our CC is now banning cloth nappies as of March

[AliBaby]

You could ask them what they used to do back before disposables were more common...GL

[*Infinity*]

Beema,

I think Gigi has done a fair bit of research into cloth nappies at CC so maybe PM her or see if she pops in?

Good luck, that's poor form on the part of the CC.

[*Beema*]

Thankyou for your feedback so far girls, keep it coming

OHS? Are you serious? What bs! the daycare that I was going to send ds to said no to cloth coz "it's too much work and dangerous"... what? you take the nappy off, put it in the dry pail - so NO soaking put the lid back on... With sposies, you take the nappy off and put it in the bin. The only difference is that cloth is going into a dry bucket that I take home.

Def find out more and ask LOTS of questions of management!

Good luck!

Definitely hardly any more effort at all, I provide a wet bag for the nappies and as requested each dirty nappy goes into it's own bag in the wet bag, so there is no "contamination" putting additional soiled nappies in the wet bag.

I heard this too!!! Whats going on?!?!?! Isn't everyone about been eco friendly these days??/ I don't understand why they think it's an OHS issue

Really, which state in the Centre in that you have heard about it, I am wondering where this decision is coming from....

I think it would come down to a contaminated waste/health and safety issue?

I think I have that covered with the wet bags/and additional bags for each nappy?

You could ask them what they used to do back before disposables were more common...GL

Exactly, they used to offer a full cloth service but only stopped it as not enough people were using it, I would have if it was running when DD started.

Beema,

I think Gigi has done a fair bit of research into cloth nappies at CC so maybe PM her or see if she pops in?

Good luck, that's poor form on the part of the CC.

Thankyou for that lb, Gigi has helped me other with some cloth nappy suggestions int he past and has ben thoroughly helpful, I will track her down and see what info she has, thankyou for the suggestion

I think it is pretty poor form too on the CCC

[BrightSparkles]

I live in Sydney and heard this when talking to other mums too

[Sammiejane]

I work in OHS and being a cloth user i would find it diffficult to believe that there would be a different OHS implication to that of a sposie... they are still removing the nappy and still cleaning the bum of the child... its just what is done with it afterwards... and TBH i cant find a difference.
one you chuck in a bin, the other you chuck in a plastic bag. Fair enoough if they are having an issue with the poo - as in cleaning it off, but t should be put down the toilet anyway, cloth or sposie, so there is no difference.

In hospital if a patient has beeing incontinent, we (nurses) have to clean them up - we use a face washer and change the linen... there is NO difference, infact it is possibly more of an issue in hospital as many have VRE... there OHS implication in that

Would like to hear their rationale - actually i will bring it up with my boss tomorrow and see what she has to say about it...

[*Beema*]

I work in OHS and being a cloth user i would find it diffficult to believe that there would be a different OHS implication to that of a sposie... they are still removing the nappy and still cleaning the bum of the child... its just what is done with it afterwards... and TBH i cant find a difference.
one you chuck in a bin, the other you chuck in a plastic bag. Fair enoough if they are having an issue with the poo - as in cleaning it off, but t should be put down the toilet anyway, cloth or sposie, so there is no difference.

Would like to hear their rationale

Thanks SJ Only the firm poo's are put in the loo, the others come home and I clean them as soon as they get home., as soona s I get more information I will have a chat if they bring up the OHS.

[Epacris]

When we started FDC for my DS they said no to cloth for "health reasons". So I questioned "what health reasons?" Like others have said, there is absolutely no difference between MCN and sposies, except MCNs goes in a wet bag, not in the bin. They couldn't come up with anything, any real reason so I just insisted that we were going to use cloth. I was quite prepared to walk away and find another care option but luckily they backed down and it's never been a problem. And why would it be anyway?

[Visitor6]

I stumbled acrooss this thread with interest (as a profesional bum wiper).

What is the set up of the 'wet bag'? How are things done. Are the 'contributions' gotten rid of first ie dow the loo and then the cloth nappies put in the wet bag.

Wrapping up a disposable and into a bag straight up may be perceived as a risk reduction method.

I can see how the child care staff (if the above is the way) can cite OH&S reasons.

More concern exists with rotavirus spread now. Similarly, fecal matter isn't exactly clean waste, so handling it more than required can be perceived as a risk. If stools aren't formed for example, this is a hazard as well with droplet spread.

If this facility is making a decision based on risk then it should have done a risk assessment and have that available. It might not be to your liking however if it is sound then in some ways you may find your choices limited.

I remember after having handled all sorts of body fluids that the enrolled (Dvision 2 nurses) used to get Nausea Allowance for cleaning up exactly the same as me as a Division 1 nurse! Hard to get my head around, but thats just the way it fell!

[Epacris]

Hi Stretcher Bearer,

Our FDC (Family Day Care) lady puts the MCN (Modern Cloth Nappy) any wipes she uses, and if there is a poo, a disposable glove, all wrapped inside the nappy in one of those small plastic bags that are often used with disposable nappies. They then go in the wetbag. A wetbag is just a waterproof bag with a zipper, I put a tissue with some lavender oil on it inside to keep it smelling nice-ish. The MCN nappies we use, Green Kids Pockets, are functionally exactly like a disposable. They are the same shape, with velcro tabs, you use them exactly like you would use a disposable.

At the end of the day I pull everything apart (yuckko!!!) I put the wipes and glove in the bin, the poo in the toilet and the nappies in the wash.

I think this is much more healthy and hygienic because the poo ends up in the toilet, where it should be and not (illegally?) in the bin.

I think all of the resistance to cloth at daycare is because people just don't know about MCN and how they work. They think when you say "cloth nappies" you mean terry toweling flats with pins and plastic pilchards. I just can't see how anyone could argue that they can't use cloth (MCN) for "health reasons" or any other reasons either for that matter.

[Floweryfields]

My guess, and it's only a guess as it's not something that has come up in my centre, is that it is due to contamination and health issues.
It is a dept rule here in Qld that any soiled items, from any age group must be kept in sealed containers and out of the reach of children to avoid infection.
Perhaps it is a limited space to keep enough nappy pails for your centre - potentially they may have to have up to 10 (depending on what state your in) buckets in each room.

We;ve have parents use cloth in our centre and never really had an issue with it - other than parents who don't supply enough covers and we once had the issue of a bub leaving a wet spot on the floor every time she wee'd.

If you have a centre with a young staff, they will be less likely to be accommodating as they just don't know what to do with cloth!


You also must consider the other point of view from the parent who is anti cloth - there are some out there who find them disgusting, a centre may find itself in a difficult situation where parents have complained about the hygeine involved with cloth use - sounds ridiculous but there are some very pedantic people around.