thanks everyone,
I tried to get the brauers (I had their colic relief formula and thought it was good) but couldn't get any! I ended up getting some SM33 gel, still has salycilic acid in it though
I ran into a freind who raved about "infants friend" so I got some of that - only to find DD with big red welts around her mouth!! She is one of the lucky few who is alergic to it. She is OK now, but it took a couple of hours for the redness to go down. So we tried the panadol, which seemed to work (I think) but it did seem like she spat more of it out than she took. I can't even slide it in when I'm BF because she is so off her food right now that she is fussing enough on the breast as it is. It's not nice to see them like this, is it?