Phernergan and or Pain Stop for severe teething?

[toomanyshoes]

Taurean, if you need to get something down your DD I know of one fail safe way. Having had 7 years as an emergency nurse I can get most things down most kids.

So what you do is administer the medicine thru a syringe.. you put the syringe into the mouth, sometimes you will need to squeeze the jaw to open the mouth. you need to push the tongue down and keep the head tilted back in order for it to work. Then squirt the medicine to the back of the throat and keep the tongue pushed down so they can't use the tongue to push the medicine out. Keep the tongue pressed down till they swallow. That's it pretty much. If you bubba is particularly strong you can get another person to hold them. Basically if you are prepared then you can do it really quickly and there isn't much stress for the bubba.

Good Luck

xx Bella

Yep this is the way to go, how my mum (nurse) taught me. DD screamed blue murder but it was more important she had the meds.

Hope things start to settle soon

[Bella29]

glad to hear you both had a good nights sleep T. Yell out if you have any other struggles

[Taurean]

Well I spoke too soon. We spent the morning in emergency - DD had an allergic reaction, covered in hives. The doctors think it was to the penicillin BUT it may have been the codeine in the Pain Stop but we can't be sure as she had both.

I got her up after I posted on here this morning and took her antibiotics with me to give her on the change table. One cheek was bright red and seemed a bit raised but I thought it was just from the way she'd been sleeping as her skin does mark easily and she goes red when hot. I gave her the antibiotics then took off her PJs (a full onesie) and got the fright of my life - her legs were covered in hives, like huge mozzie bites, and there were patches spreading on her arms I phoned BIL who's a paramedic and lives around the corner and he said to take her to emergency. DH came straight home and off we went.

The hives had subsided a bit by the time we got there but they were still really bad and DD was distressed. The car trip was awful, her eyes rolled back at one stage and she went a bit floppy and started coughing on all the drool. We think she was just a bit distressed though but it completely freaked us out.

They took her straight in and checked all her vitals - all good. Phew. They monitored her for 2.5 hours and gave her Phernergan (ironic hey ) and dosed her up on Panadol. The ED doctor said her throat is a bit inflamed but said it's not tonsillitis but most likely a virus and teething. She witnessed her drink a bottle of milk and said that was a really good sign as she was worried it was some other thing (can't remember the name) which is really nasty.

So we are home and DD is asleep. She stirred earlier and was so lethargic which freaked me out but I guess that understandable given the morning we've had - and the Phernergan. She did have a full bottle and Nurofen then so that was a good sign I think.

We have to monitor her and try to get a wee sample and get her checked out by our GP again tomorrow. She has to stay on the Phernergan for 3-4 days plus have regular doses of Nurofen and Panadol. No more antibiotics or codeine. We also have to see an allergy specialist to find out which drug was the culprit.

My god, is it too early for a wine?

[Nai]

Oh geez! That's a rough few days - you deserve a bottle of wine! I hope your DD recovers and doesn't have any more reactions. Allergies aren't fun

[toomanyshoes]

Poor little thing and poor mum and dad!

Hopefully everyone gets a good nights sleep.

[Taurean]

Thanks. It was damn scary. I'm so drained! DD is sleeping well now so I'm chilling out (I'm too high from all the coffee to sleep!). Looking forward to wine AND sleep. My bar opens at 4pm today!

[Floweryfields]

Isn't Phenergen for allergic reactions? It will make baby sleep, because it contains a sedative, but I;m not sure it's a great idea just to use it to make her sleep. I haven't heard of pain stop though, what is it?

[Taurean]

Ausgirl - I wanted the Phernergan to *maybe* help dry up her drool (there is bucket loads of it!) and Pain Stop is stronger than paracetamol, it contain codeine. She was actually prescribed antibiotics for suspected tonsillitis late yesterday but ended up in emergency this morning as she had an allergic reaction (severe hives) to either the penicillin in the antibiotics or the codeine in the Pain Stop. The ED doctor prescribed her Phernergan for the hives. Ironic hey. I'm just SO glad she's ok and the reaction didn't effect (or make it to) her throat.

[Bella29]

If I were a betting girl I would bet on the penicillian. It is a real problem child when it comes to allergic reactions. Glad you and she are ok. Not surprising that she is so lethargic really given the phenergan. Hope you are all ok now. Take it easy won't you. It can be so exhausting taking care of a sick baby. You need to mother yourself a bit too. You all gonna be ok.

Bella

[Artechim]

Far out! That must have been scary for you! Have an extra wine or three tonight!

[black_rose]

Have lots of wine! Which antibiotic? Dd1 is allergic to ceclor which caused hives and swelling in her joints, apparently is fairly common for kids to be allergic to it.

[Taurean]

It was penicillin

Arte - OMG, so scary. I completely freaked out! I can't believe she's ok but I'm still worried. Think I might sleep in her room tonight. The hives appeared again after her nap but the Phernergan knocked them down again.

It's been full on. BTW, on my third wine already girls, lol.

[Winter]

If I ever give DD Phenergen (twice in her life) I have to have her sleep with me, I can't sleep otherwise, I'd be up and down all night checking that she is still breathing! Will be good for both of you to have a snuggly night together! Hope she's feeling better soon!

[bubno.3]

You poor thing .... i was feeling guilty about telling you to give the Painstop but you never know these things... know you will have a bottle of phenergan in cupboard wont you ??

[Taurean]

Don't feel bad Bubno3! DH and I agreed to try it and we were good with our decision We are pretty certain it was the penicillin anyway.

Poor poppet is coming out in hives again. Holding out for a bit longer before I wake her for another dose of Phernergan which will hopefully see her through the night. I'm so scared to sleep although I'm sure she'll be fine - she survived last night. Why doesn't that reassure me?

Winter - I think I'll be sleeping in her room tonight or she'll be in our bed

[Michelle71]

If she has a virus and was given penicillin they can get a rash which does not mean they are allergic to the medicine. I was waiting for DS to get the rash on penicillin 2 weeks ago. He was diagnosed with tonsillitis (hence the antibiotics) but came up monospot positive (glandular fever) which is apparently quite common in children and they often get swollen tonsils as a result, get started on antibiotics (penicillin usually) and then develop a viral rash. Although hives is different again.

[Taurean]

Thanks for that Michelle It was hives though - still is. They are coming and going but the Phernergan is helping. They are like HUGE mozzie bites, all joined, all over her legs and in patches on her arms and face. I get itchy just thinking about it!

[Artechim]

My goodness the pics on FB look horrifying! Like a giant hive is trying to eat her! Poor Izzy, I hope she is feeling better soon xx