Thanks for all the support... i would be lost without the expertise and understanding of the BB people.

I havn't managed to get another BFP...so I am declaring myself NOT UTD. There is more evidence against and I need to stay calm and rational.

I have my usual AF type pains plus a back ache...so am planning for the worst ...well AF anyway.

The evidence for Pg? Tired, dizzy, sick feeling in back of throat, dry mouth (awful all day), burping (WTF?) Also haven't manged another dark urine specimen -all fairly pale.???

But the lack of another BFP say NO...I am going to respect the 6 (4 + 2) POAS that said I have not succeeded ...but will live to fight another day....my baby is out there!!!