I'm so glad that you 'got' it ZF. I feel so completely 'vain' for even starting the thread, but I have worked my backside off to get this 18kg off. I plan on stacking up my plate with the salads. One thing I have really learned is to not snack between meals, I think if I can stick to no snacks, I should be ok. I'm not being completely unreasonable, I know I will come back to China having put something back on, but I don't want it to be a big number,

BTW, your ticker is zooming along as well! WTG!