YAY! excellent that is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for... thank you so much
Ryatha, Shannon Lush is awesome for cleaning hints and tips. The information I provided to you is from "Vinegar, 1001 practical household uses" from Bookclub at work.

DH has terribly dirty work clothes and I put half a cup of vinegar in with this wash. But I also do a bowl clean wash with vinegar and hot water like Charlie Brown Girl suggested, I put it on the longest cycle and let the hot water soak.
Ellee, eeekkk to hubbies dirty work clothes I same the same problem here (traddies )