Oh I misread your post sorry. I meant the discount that is built in. All 4 year old kinder is subsidised within each centre fees and then the fees charged to parents are worked out depending on the hours they attend etc. the minimum a week is 10 and up to 15 a week. My DD will be going for 12 hrs for e.g.. As for the twins I am not sure - thing is they both have a place within the kinder program so it might just be that you have to pay full fees for both?