Animal testing?

[Lulu]

L'o do not test on animals and haven't for the last 20 years or so.

[Phteven]

Thanks Lulu, I didn't know that. Which brings me to another thing I was musing on.
If I open a company tomorrow I can research which ingredients are safe then I could use them and say that my company is cruelty free because I have never tested on animals but really I could be using ingredients which were derived from animal testing 20 years ago. If so is my company really cruelty free?
I know. It's a moral question not a legal one because obviously I would be stupid not to say cruelty free under those conditions.....

[Lulu]

I don't even GET the stoopid animal testing anyway. The Silkience hairspray being tested - 2 monkeys in a perpex cage and 8 cans of hairspray emptied into the cage.
Eyeliner - tested on bunnies with their eyes held open and the stupid fricken eyeliner right against the eye....scuse me whilst I scream.

ETA - Bron, if you paid for the research done 20 years ago, I'd say that would be a problem. However, I CAN see you testing your product on your friends instead.

[Astrid]

One downside of the Cruelty free website, the companies on there pay to be there. Some companies are now choosing to now pay the fee in order to keep their pricing reasonable. So just because they are not on there, or are no longer on there does not mean there is something wrong with them.

[Phteven]

However, I CAN see you testing your product on your friends instead.

ooh that's a good idea - if I send you some hand-cream could I get you to rub it into your eyeballs repeatedly and let me know if it smarts