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thread: Dissidence, advocacy, activism - do you stick it to the man?

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  1. #1
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
    7,070

    Post its are recyclable, and if you threw it on the floor YOU would be littering

  2. #2
    Registered User

    May 2007
    3,341

    so you would think that gives you the right to put them where ever you like when ever you like.

    do you get the contents of your recyling bin and put in on peoples yards and in shopping centres cause you want to prove a point with the response "its recyclable"

    it may be - but you are offending people that use the items you have an issue with, you are causing increase in workload for the people who have to get them all off and making unneccarry rubbish to recycle.

    BUild up some courage and pen to paper instead and stop being a secret squirrel protestor

  3. #3

    Mar 2004
    Sparta
    12,662

    i dont do this but if i saw your postit notes i would be happy to give you a speech on pollution and littering.
    I thought that littering was dropping rubbish and that pollution was contaminating the environment.... *makes mental note to revise dictionary*

    BUild up some courage and pen to paper instead and stop being a secret squirrel protestor
    Now I'm totally confused. That's exactly what using post-it notes is doing.

    First you tell me not to then you tell me to build up courage and do it.
    I think you're just toying with me....

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    hiding under my desk!
    1,432

    Bron i also hide TH's book..every book shop i go in to... hehe(its just annoying when they have a few copies)

  5. #5
    Registered User

    May 2007
    3,341


    First you tell me not to then you tell me to build up courage and do it.
    I think you're just toying with me....
    do you write your contact details on each postit so you can be contacted to discuss the issues you have?

    or just stick them then run and giggle cause you are so brave you stuck a post it note somewhere.

    this is what i am saying.

    if you are going to make a point and protest - do it productivity and properly.
    not like a 14 year old school girl who is stirring up trouble to sit hiding to see what happens

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    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
    7,070

    not like a 14 year old school girl who is stirring up trouble to sit hiding to see what happens

    You have a very overactive imagination dear.

  7. #7

    Mar 2004
    Sparta
    12,662

    Now you've got issues with running and giggling? Not that I ever have run and giggled but it sounds like fun.

    It's interesting that you raise the point of 'proper' protest.
    What is proper protest? I think that's one of the big questions of activism - some would argue that only non-violent methods are valid a-la Ghandi and passive resistance whereas others would point to the IRA and say that there is a place for violent protest too. Me, I don't have the energy or inclination to actually go and bomb the Nestle factory so I'll stick to post-it notes which I regard as valid form of activism and self-expression.

    Anyways, I started this thread to discuss how we stuck it to the man. So lets get back to discussing what we do.....

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    2013 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    May 2007
    Brisbane
    5,310

    Oh oh oh oh ... this is class all the way... I often ponderly aloud why toilet paper needs to be bleached super-white, and why you need a whole new tree (as opposed to recycled toilet paper) when its only used to wipe your butt??

    Not sure if that is activism, but it seems so unnecessary so i like to comment...

  9. #9
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    hiding under my desk!
    1,432

    hmm maybe you have an idea there.. perhaps we could make little tinee tiny bombs and put them opn all the nestle stuff so they simultaniasly(sp) blow up.. would that be a nice big grown up way of protesting?

    i dont feel that chaining my self to a TH book would get much attention either..

    we need to make people aware of these issues would you rather a note that says nestle blah blah or a bomb going off?

  10. #10
    Registered User

    May 2007
    3,341

    proper protesting is making sure you are accountable for what you are fighting for.
    so put your details on the postit - so people can then take you seriously and contact you to discuss your concerns.

    I know you all think i am an idiot for thinking your post it notes and graffic are completely inappropriate but i dont really care.

    do what makes you sleep at night - and if that mean unaccountable inproper protesting so be it.
    can bet you get NO message across and NO ONE will take your comments seriously because you dont take them seriously enough to be named for your statements

  11. #11
    2013 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    May 2007
    Brisbane
    5,310

    PP, it might seem improper, or like its not going to make a difference, and you know what in the big scheme of things its not going to make a difference to the companies. But if I help one little person because their mum didn't buy a Tizzie Hall book, or draw one mums attention to the fact that toddler milk isnt necessary, and prompt them to go buy some bananas instead, then thats what matters really.

    One person might not change the whole world. But one person can change one persons whole world. I guess thats what matters to me.

    BTW, I find writing to these companies fairly pointless, as I know they'll just delete it. They don't care about anything else but their bottom line. I'd rather inform people, who might inform other people. Doesn't seem so dumb to me.


    ETA: doudou LMAO at chaining yourself to a Tizzie Hall book!!!! Just don't start crying or they'll put you in a room by yourself until you realise no one is listening (ohhh, thats bad, mods delete it if you must...).

  12. #12
    Registered User

    May 2007
    3,341

    . I'd rather inform people, who might inform other people. Doesn't seem so dumb to me.
    I understand what you are trying to do leasha
    but perhaps do a information morning at your community centre - write a letter to the local paper, start a public debate on a radio show.

    these are much more productive than a post it note you have no idea if it will even be there 2 secs after you walk away

    As for cows milk - the effects of cows milk on my DD was terrible and i didnt like the fact i was encouraged to only give it. i used toddler milk and my bub tolerated it much more than cows milk. so it isnt that bad!

  13. #13

    Mar 2004
    Sparta
    12,662

    PMSL at chaining yourself to the TH books.

  14. #14
    Registered User

    Jan 2009
    hiding under my desk!
    1,432



    it had me giggling and wanting to run away while i wrote it

  15. #15
    Registered User

    Feb 2007
    In the jungle.
    4,809

    I don't have the energy or inclination to actually go and bomb the Nestle factory so I'll stick to post-it notes which I regard as valid form of activism and self-expression.


    Lulu- you are B.A.D. I love it!
    Last edited by Junglemum; July 17th, 2009 at 03:22 PM.

  16. #16
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

    Jan 2005
    Funky Town, Vic
    7,070

    PP I have no idea why you are even bothering to participate in this thread. It's not like anyone is holding a post it to your head....

  17. #17
    Registered User

    May 2007
    3,341

    im sorry lulu - i thought this was a public forum open to opinions.

    When with BellyBelly become about being small minded and being a flock of sheep on topics.

    if you cant take a healthy debate perhaps you should post


    I have an issue with what you do jsut the same as you have a problem with products etc.
    isnt it all the same argument?

  18. #18
    BellyBelly Member

    Mar 2006
    Getting to know Brisbane all over again
    2,047

    I like to order in books in book stores rather than purchase online - as they usually have to order in more than one copy so at least they have a presence on the shelf and give mums and dads another option to the "others" that are there.

    I like to comment loudly about un-necessary baby/toddler products and often say loudly as we pass the disposables how glad I am that we don't have to buy chemical filled plastic pants

    I mutter loudly to myself about products that state in big letters "natural" or "additive free" only to be loaded with chemicals or contain artifical flavour enhancers. I also email at least 5 companies a week about removing preservatives, colours, flavours etc from their food.

    I like to wear my advocacy shirts around town - even when I'm not actually working on the project.

    I have my pet whinges which I will debate with anyone if given an opportunity such as chemicals in the home, deforrestation and development of water catchment areas and my new one is the birth rights rally

    And then I have started my new business which organises events and aims to educate people on alternatives to mainstream products and services which I LOVE and wish I had more time to dedicate to it.

    Lulu - I would love to see your post-it's somewhere! It would make my day.

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