Whats the Nestle "hate" all about?

[Cocolove]

Quite apart from the orangutans, for YEARS they have been giving out free powdered milk and/or formula in thirld world countries or disadvantaged areas. Mums get a free sample, are very grateful, they use it, their own breastmilk supply dries up, and they are then forced to continue buying this product. Often families can't afford it, so mixx flour and water instead because it looks the same, so babies die.

When I say years, I'm talking fiftenn plus years.

OMG i had no idea.

[Early Kids]

Why single out nestle on the palm oil thing? Many many companies use it in their products!

I understand the formula thing, but to just single out nestle on the palm oil thing is wrong, maybe it should be changed to a palm oil free easter.... rather than nestle free, that way you not only boycott nestle, but every other company still using this product.

[*TripleJ*]

i do it coz of the formula when i heard about it i just couldnt bring my self to use anything nestle i felt disgusted when i was gonna buy yougurt for DS and almost bought the yougurt but thats just me

[Matryoshka]

Plus whomever makes/owns Nestle makes/owns about a million other products you will find absolutely everywhere within the supermarket. There used to be a thread or list somewhere for those truly dedicated to living a nestle free life. Google something like companies/products made by nestle and you will be shocked.

I looked in to it once and it was completely overwhelming just how much they own, manufacture... to avoid absolutely every product associated with the nestle owners seemed almost impossible to me.

Avoiding a few chocolates won't even make a dent in their profits, though good on those willing to try. Plus sally is right, palm oil is used in so many products, and rarely from a sustainable source.

[Inanna]

Yes Nestle` have a lot of tentacles. They own 30% of Loreal.
I think it depends how you shop how difficult it is to avoid. I know lots of people who refuse to purchase Nestle`. Whilst you are right that one person won't make a dint - collectively we can. Not only that it's the Energy behind it.

When folk collectively come together to stand for a cause it creates positive Energy.

Having a Nestle free Easter requires a conscious choice on the part of the consumer. It's about thinking before you put your dollars toward what many (myself included) see as a very unethical company.

[Miss H]

When folk collectively come together to stand for a cause it creates positive Energy.

I like that and you are so right. It's called the collective conscious. I believe in it too and it's what makes people fight wars too. A bit off the subject here but I too am boycotting Nestle and any product with palm oil in. It is difficult but if we want to make a difference for our kids then it's about time we start taking notice what is happening in this world and making choices to protect what's left of it.

[LimeSlice]

It is really actually not that hard to avoid Nestle - the more sustainable and macrobiotic a life you lead, the easier it becomes.... It can even be said it is not an ethical choice but a lifestyle choice...a health choice.

Just as easily is it to avoid Palm Oil - begin looking at FAIR TRADE and ORGANIC producs and you will find it. It is easy - when as Mrs H pointed out - you make a CONSCIOUS CHOICES to live better.

[Phteven]

There is a booklet you can buy that is a great help when shopping.

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...klet-card.html

Nestle have also refused to stop sourcing their cocoa from sources that use child labour.

https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...d-slavery.html

[Lulu]

I looked in to it once and it was completely overwhelming just how much they own, manufacture... to avoid absolutely every product associated with the nestle owners seemed almost impossible to me.

I'm ok with that though. It's one of the main reasons I reject most mass produced food and products.

[Matryoshka]

I'm ok with that though. It's one of the main reasons I reject most mass produced food and products.

We eat mostly raw/organic/dairy free/Failsafe foods. I bake and make our "treats" and buy fresh bread (282 free).

But it was other stuff from washing powder, to crayons, to paper products.... Nestle have their sticky fingers in to almost everything around us. I looked in to it quite deeply at the time.

I didn't mean to be negative (shouldn't post when i'm tired and in a rush)... I agree the collective positive energy is a good thing. I just wanted to point out how deeply nestle and their other companies are integrated in to society, so those wanting to avoid it completely really need to do some research.

[maz]

well im a bad mummy then arent I

we all manage to try and do our bit in one way for our enviroment, our earth, while we fall down in others.

I use cloth on my kids...I use cloth myself in more ways then one. How many people use disposables that clog our earth? How many people flush tampoons down the toilet? How many people leave unneccessary lights on, take the car for a quick trip to the shop? Use throw away bag to put their vegetables in at the supermarket? We wont have to worry about a rainforest for the orangatanges if we dont fix other problems first.

[Lulu]

well im a bad mummy then arent I

we all manage to try and do our bit in one way for our enviroment, our earth, while we fall down in others.

I use cloth on my kids...I use cloth myself in more ways then one. How many people use disposables that clog our earth? How many people flush tampoons down the toilet? How many people leave unneccessary lights on, take the car for a quick trip to the shop? Use throw away bag to put their vegetables in at the supermarket? We wont have to worry about a rainforest for the orangatanges if we dont fix other problems first.

Maz, there isn't time to fix ONE thing first then start on another. Especially endangered species and rainforests. If we stuff up the earth and wipe out species there won't be any food at all and the last thing you will be worrying about is tampons.

[BellyBelly]

Everyone is doing their best. But we can't do it all of course. Thats why there are people dedicated to separate causes, bringing awareness to different things which keeps companies honest by speaking their language (money). I don't think its helpful to shoot the messenger on this one. By saying that why don't we do this or that, well aren't what we are doing a good thing? Sure I wish I could know it all and be able to know what to buy, but I don't. It's things like this that helps spread awareness, Nestle are guilty of having practices resulting in many, many dead babies. If you don't want to join in, fine, that's your choice and good on you. But don't shoot down those trying to make a difference. Absolutely no harm in what we're doing. Its just like the birth work I do. My interest is in birth, parenting and educating for both of those. Its what my passion is and I love it. I don't have any more energy or time to focus on anything like humanitarian work or aid work or anything else - other people have that as their passion. Thank goodness the world is so diverse and people are so diverse, we can cover more topics and problems in the world that way. We all have a passion, follow it, but don't try and shoot down others for theirs.

[Inanna]

Thankyou Nelle for arresting the title Hate"... I don't "hate" Nestle. I dislike what this company (& many other multinational companies standfor/do/create).

I believe each of us has a responsibility to work to save this Earth we have raped for so long. How we each do that as individuals will be different. For me Nestle and the formula issue is my reason. Formula companies have undermined mothers, directly caused the death of infants & this is all done playing on a mothers want to do the "best" for her babies.

Kristy-Lee I am curious at your comment. It seems to be a challenge - is that how you meant it? Do we use mobile phones? Well yes, I do. I use plastic also, though I limit it's useage. I also have undies made in China - though it's my aim not to use these products...

I find it interesting how there is always a comment such as the one you made. I am not pious & don't believe any of those that posted anti Nestle sentiments are. None of us are Saints, perfect. We are trying to do our bit. We are aiming to live ethical lives, not directed by mass consumerisim. Not directed by corporates. But directed by what we feel is ethical.

So, I am not sure what you really meant. Or what your motive was. But one doesn't cancel out the other YK?

[Toomanytoomany]

Why single out nestle on the palm oil thing? Many many companies use it in their products!

I understand the formula thing, but to just single out nestle on the palm oil thing is wrong, maybe it should be changed to a palm oil free easter.... rather than nestle free, that way you not only boycott nestle, but every other company still using this product.

Nestle is one of the biggest food producer/manufacturers in the world. If they change a practice, it will change everywhere.

There are other companies which have already signed up not to source palm oil from orangutan habitat. Nestle could make a huge difference if it followed suit.