thread: Whats the Nestle "hate" all about?

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  1. #1
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

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    I would like to point out that Anit Rod.... didn't sell out, she passed on the company that she built from scratch, sourced products herself, built co-operatives with tiny communities and fought endless discrimination for onto another company with ironclad agreements not to diminish/repeal everything The Body Shop stood for. She sold it because she was dying.

    Please don't call The Body Shop a sellout, they are still doing FAR MORE good for the global community than anyone I can think of.

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    Sorry hon, I didn't mean it like that, I meant in terms of principles... Nestle taking over is so not about what she stood for.
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    Um do some research about Anita Rod****.... i worked at the body shop for several years..... they are FAR from ethical! One example is "reformulating products" (ie, putting in more filler ingredients, less active ingredients) and then raising the price significantly. This is just one of many things i noticiced while working there.

    And if you want to know the truth about Anita Rod**** google about how she STOLE the original name, idea and products from a much smaller company, whom by the way is still operating ethically.

    The original concept was to re-use, re-fill, re-cycle.... when i last worked there in 2006, they were phazing out the re-filling of bottles, because it was too costly - ie, we should be on the floor selling products rather than out the back re-filling a small bottle which we make much less money off.

    ALL their products are full of petrochemicals, and very few natural ingredients too. Just look at the labels.

    Plus they sold out to Loreal around the same time... didn't someone say they were owned by nestle?

    Don't buy in to the hype, some companies are not as ethical as you think.
    Last edited by Matryoshka; March 30th, 2010 at 01:43 PM.

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    Just so you know, Nestle stopped making Easter eggs in 2000 or 2001 because it wasn't profitable (my best friend used to work for them).

    I don't know if they have restarted since then but if they haven't then a Nestle-free Easter is going to be the default anyway.

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    There are Kit Kat / Smarties eggs and the like though? There are lots of things you can boycott though, Milo, Nescafe, Nesquick, Ski yoghurt, Maggi, Peters Icecream...
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    Oct 2005
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    Yes there are those eggs I am pretty sure that Nestle sell those eggs...

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    Has someone put a link up with what products need to be avoided? As in a product list of some sort of what nestle make and own?

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    Is there anywhere you can get a FULL list of exactly what Nestle own? I can't seem to find one...tia

    ETA - great minds Minny!!

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    Last edited by Jennifer13; March 30th, 2010 at 02:26 PM.
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    ALL their products are full of petrochemicals, and very few natural ingredients too. Just look at the labels.

    Don't buy in to the hype, some companies are not as ethical as you think.
    :yeahthat: I would NEVER touch a body shop product and if one was given to me I would throw it out.

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    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

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    :yeahthat: I would NEVER touch a body shop product and if one was given to me I would throw it out.
    Watch what hype you buy into......

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    Watch what hype you buy into......
    The Body Shop give the impression that their products are made from mostly natural ingredients. In fact like all big cosmetic companies they make wide use of non-renewable petrochemicals, synthetic colours, fragrances and preservatives, and in many of their products they use only tiny amounts of botanical-based ingredients.
    They also hide ingredient labels on alot of their products so it makes it hard to read whats in the product which is wrong.

    That's all I'm gonna say on that one....

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    What I want to know is

    How the hell all you woman know this stuff????

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    What I want to know is

    How the hell all you woman know this stuff????
    Maz.... I looked into that stuff a few years ago when I wanted to know what the big deal about the Body shop products was all about...
    As for others, not sure....

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    So is "So Good" Sanitarium soy milk fermented or unfermented?

  16. #16
    Matryoshka Guest

    The Body Shop give the impression that their products are made from mostly natural ingredients. In fact like all big cosmetic companies they make wide use of non-renewable petrochemicals, synthetic colours, fragrances and preservatives, and in many of their products they use only tiny amounts of botanical-based ingredients.
    They also hide ingredient labels on alot of their products so it makes it hard to read whats in the product which is wrong.

    That's all I'm gonna say on that one....

    Your're right....

    they also changed their slogan from "not tested on animals" to "animal friendly" some time in the 90s i believe.

    The Body shop, and MOST other companies are out to make money, it all comes down to sales. Yep, the body shop does do some community stuff but i can tell you the focus on that is minute compared to the focus on sales. Daily sales targets, constant training in pushing add ons, up-selling.... etc.

    Maz, apart from working there i did ALOT of online research when i started to question their ethics at the time.

    In essence i try to support local products where i can, organic products... and follow Failsafe where possible. But sometimes living with such limited options is way too time consuming when you have demanding fussy toddlers.

    As i said do what you can, you're no less a person if you have nestle in your home than someone with a nestle free home. Maybe you donate to charities, maybe you save second hand water for the garden, maybe you just use light saver light bulbs... whatever.

    We can't all be nestle free, i admire those who can, but also expect admiration for the ethical environmentally friendly things i do do, nestle aside.

  17. #17
    Lucy in the sky with diamonds.

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    Your're right....

    they also changed their slogan from "not tested on animals" to "animal friendly" some time in the 90s i believe.

    The Body shop, and MOST other companies are out to make money, it all comes down to sales. Yep, the body shop does do some community stuff but i can tell you the focus on that is minute compared to the focus on sales. Daily sales targets, constant training in pushing add ons, up-selling.... etc.
    No they didn't change to "animal friendly". Yes they are a business and upselling is expected in any retail store. Of course you have sales targets - who doesn't?

    "Some" community stuff? Every person that works at the Head Office is expected to do Community Service as part of their contract. Do you know how much they raise for Domestic Violence in Australia on a yearly basis? No "administration" costs involved.

    You wouldn't believe some of the thing I have seen TBS employees do on a community level - in their own time.