Yeh i see what barb is getting at. It is VERY easy to over fed a FF bub. Dont listen to the tin, listen to ur bub. I know knows Mia's signs when she has had enough, and she never been a big drinker.
Barb: The skin is baby pimples so nothing too serious. He has had it before when he was younger and on and off since but it has been especially worse since the formula change. Over the last few days he has prob been taking maybe 100mls at a feed so he doesn't usually get close to the 150mls, i dont force the formula down, I just let him have what he wants and he doesn't want to eat more than 4 hourly so thats what im doing. The morning feeds are usually his smallest and then at his last feed he usually takes the full 150mls before bed. DH and I dont have any intolerances or allergies.
I spoke to my GP about reflux however DS is not in pain when he spews, he said that if he had reflux i would know about it. DS was never a chucky baby early on he just has become more so with age.
DS weight gains have been great in the past, he was 7.05 kg at 3 months, his birth weight was 3.6kg. They have slowed down lately but I think that is normal as he reaches 3 months.
DS has been more fussy at the bottle lately, I thought this was due to him becoming more interested in other things but now im not sure. I am so sad about it at the moment, I dont know what to do but i think the first step is a visit to the gp. also maybe he isn't throwing up as much as I think??? Grrr im so confused, its been a really hard day with the feeding, the chucking and him being upset.
we had similar problems with our DS, and I found the only thing that worked for us was a plain and simple formula, alot of the newer formulas have so much in them now and sometimes I think the babys are just a little sensative to them, with DS my mum asked me to try Lactogen and I did and it worked brilitantly its just a plain basic formula thats been around for years its quite heavy so fills them a little quicker and quite possibly because its heavier it stays down easier, not sure if that is the case but it makes sense,
I also think perhaps smaller feeds more frequently will help, he may just be having to much and his tummy cant handle it, it sounds like his weight gain is good so I wouldnt think he is bringing up to much.
good luck I hope it all works out for you, it can deffinately be a stressfull time thats for sure
Gosh my DD must be a greedy guts. She was drinking 210mls at 3 and a half months.
I know what you mean about the Karicare being revolting - taste and smell-wise I couldn't stand it. My DD is on Nan and we've had no problems with it. She's chucks quite a bit but not enough that I am alarmed about it. She always was chucky though. The Nan tastes and smells much better than Karicare and S-26, I think.
A couple of simple things I would try if you aren't already...move him up to a faster flow teat; burp him half way through the feed; keep him upright for a while after the feed; don't try and feed him any more of the bottle if he seems to have had enough (I know you probably aren't doing this but it is worth mentioning. I always follow DD's lead and if she only wants half a bottle sometimes, that's fine). I also would try a plain, non-gold formula such as Heinz (my MCHN likes Heinz and Nan).
Is your DS a snuffly type of baby? DD is and we notice she chucks up a lot more when she has nasal congestion. We have to wash her nose out with saline when that happens and then she can feed and suck on her dummy better, poor little thing. The GP says as her face grows she should grow out of this...she does have quite a small nose. This is not formula-related though, she's been prone to enormous boogers since she was born.
I changed to Mam Ultivent bottles after I researched the BPA issue and DD had a lot less wind after the change of bottle. It had all these claims on the box but I didn't pay any attention to it, I was only interested in the BPA-free angle. But perhaps there was something in it...?
I think the poos sound fine, btw.
Hopefully there is something in there that helps!
ETA: Just remembered DD's chucking also calmed down (as well as general wind) when I moved her up to a medium flow teat...same time as the new bottles, so maybe it was just the teat. I have to admit I'm a bit of a fan of just trying a faster flow teat, I've seen it work quite a few times, especially with bigger babies. And my DD is a big baby like yours, 7.5kgs at 4 months and very tall along with it.
1. Slow down his feeds. Give quarter of a bottle at a time. Burb him in between and sit him upright.
2. Drop down a teat size
3. Keep bub upright for a good 20 mins post feeding.
If bub is happy then you may just have a Happy Chucker!! My friend had a bub who chucked up huge amounts and to be honest it was bloody awful. Poor bub just had to be upright constantly. Both my girls were chuckers and they did not improve until they were 3 to 6 months old.
Don't be overly concerned with the chucking up if bub is happy and not in pain. Just keep getting him weighed to check his progress.
Curly: We moved ds up to the medium flow a few days ago so see how he goes over the next few days see if anything changes. At the moment we are taking it slow and watching him alot when feeding to make sure that he doesn't choke due to the faster flow but he seems to be ok with them .
Funny you mentioned the snuffliness as ds is a bit snuffy. Ill clear his nose tomorro and see how we go.
I def think I will go back to a plain formula, maybe go back to nan or try heinz if it doesn't clear up after he finishes his next can of karicare. If i have to smell his spew i would like it to at least smell a bit nicer than karicare lol. I think formula's prey on the insecurities of formula feeding mums, esp with karicares new pre-biotics in the gold which apparently support the babies immune system. I think thats what sucked us into the gold as everyone told me not to use gold formula.
What is the best way to introduce a new formula if we need to? Someone mentioned that we should not just change the tin, should we introduce a bottle a day till we change over completely?
I don't know about gradually changing over - when I changed DD's formula I just opened the new tin of Nan and away I went...oops. Maybe someone else can help there.
Just wanted to post that the Nan is a gold formula and I have never seen it in a non-gold version. One of my friends is a GP and she likes Nan HA but that is also gold (my DD is on the regular Nan Pro Gold). So if you are wanting a non-gold formula Nan won't be the one for you.
Good luck! I hope that something works for you. If it is the nose thing, I sympathise. Poor DD hates having the saline squirted up her nose and we are spending a fortune on saline at the moment (the Otrivin baby nasal saline ampoules or Fess) because she has a cold which makes it even worse. But I checked with the GP who said it was fine, it's really the only thing that we can do until she grows out of it...
Ok so I took DS to the gp today after a terrible morning feed. He thinks that he has reflux and has put him on losec for a week to see if it makes a difference.
I am relieved that we have an answer although I know that it may not be reflux at least we have a starting point. I am so upset wih myself for not taking him to the doctor earlier, for the longest time I thought he was just a grumpy bub and now it seems he has been in pain for a long time.
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