our vegie patch is very big (you could essentially say our garden is for us, my folks, mum's sister, and a friend - so a decent size)

doing a quick think back to last week when we measured it, the first one is 5.4m square, with a 2.7m square cut out of it (it is an l shape with outer edge 5.4m long on each side, inner edge 2.7m long). the other is 4.1x5.4m with a section 2.2x2.4 missing) - i hope that makes sense - it's really hard to explain!! basically L shaped, wrapping around the corners of the fence (i think there is a pic on one of the earlier pages which shows the shape of one garden, the other is a mirror of that)

the garden that is going in for the sunflowers (and other pretties this year - and will likely become a normal garden for vegies next year if the sun flowers are a flop lol) is 8mx1.2m