L&B, originally I just googled our council name Boroondara and they listed several, those closest I tried to get on list for but were several year lists. Then I met someone through ABA who runs a permaculture garden you can go help in, so did that a few times, and she mentioned one in our area had spaces so got in touch and sorted it this morning. So now I can go to the permaculture garden and learn stuff and buy cheap seedlings etc and also dabble around on our own plot too. I know someone at work who got one in a similar way.