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The only other thing I used to do when I was having an attach was go into the shower and leave the water running onto my back and stomach, just to try and calm the muscles around that area. Even now I remember that as one of the worst times in my life health wise - so you have my sympathies.
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I don't know if this works but I remember reading about it in a sandra cabot book - we got the book because mum had a fatty liver, which she fixed by using cabot's diet, so I reckon its worth a try. Plus if it does work, its overnight. (the colonic wasnt in cabot's method).
I googled it and got this:
The ONLY ingredients you need are virgin olive oil and freshly squeezed lemon juice.
There are some optional ingredients: Prior to the cleanse, apple, carrot, orange or grapefruit juice for a brief fast. During the cleanse, some V8 juice or pineapple juice.
Following the cleanse he strongly recommends vitamin c, methionince, choline, inositol and lecithin be added to your daily supplements.
A. SUGGESTED PRE-CLEANSE
A colonic irrigation to clean out the system for easier elimination of the stones is recommended prior to the cleanse. You may need to start this a week or so before the treatment, to be able to have several colonic irrigations.
If you can't have colonic irrigation, consider an enema.
Do one or two days of modified fasting using fresh juices. Apple and carrot juice are probably the best. Unsweetened orange and grapefruit are next. Fresh is the first choice, fresh frozen second.
Drink as much as you like!
B. THE CLEANSE
Pick a day when you have nothing much to do the next day, and preferably even the day after. Friday is best for most people who have the weekend off. Don't make any plans to go out!
DO NOT EAT ANY SOLID FOOD after noon on the cleanse day. You may drink water or fresh juices, as much as you like.
DO NOT HAVE ANY FLUIDS after 6.30 pm (or 30 minutes before the start of your treatment) on the day of cleanse. Give your stomach time to evacuate all the fluids. Then the olive oil won't float up on top of the fluid and your chances of nausea will be greatly reduced.
YOU WILL NEED:
One pint of virgin olive oil.
One half-pint of freshly squeezed lemon juice.
Peppermint oil (from your health food store)
Pineapple or V8 juice (note: Biotta vegetable juice from Health food store is likely better than V8)
Measuring cup or tablespoon size measuring spoon
Pitcher of water
Paint stirring stick
Jar with screw-on lid
Index cards
Net to drape under the toilet seat, to catch your stones
Place the net under you toilet seat so it will be ready when you need it. Lift the seat and place the net across the porcelain stool, then replace the seat so it will hold the net in place. Place the pitcher of water and the paint stirring stick next to the toilet ready for when you need them. Also have handy the screw-on lid for storing your gall stones and the index card.
If you should experience extreme nausea or vomiting, try chasing it with a small amount of V8 juice or pineapple juice. Or you might try adding a few drops of peppermint oil to the olive oil. Use one of these mixtures for a couple of doses and then go back to the olive oil and lemon juice without adding anything.
THE PROCEDURE
12 Noon
Stop eating all solid food
6.30 pm
Stop drinking all fluids
7.00 pm
Using a measuring device, pour ? cup (four tablespoonfuls) of olive oil and drink it.
Follow immediately with one or two tablespoonfuls of lemon juice.
Lie down and relax.
Repeat this every 15 minutes. Sit up, swallow it and lie down again. If possible, have someone else bring them to you.
Relax, read or watch television. Keep as still as possible. It is best to lie on your right side.
Repeat the exact dosage every 15 minutes until you have swallowed all of the pint of olive oil. If there is any lemon juice left, drink it all.
It is now probably 10.00 or 10.30 pm
Remember, if you have terrible nausea or vomiting sensations, use the peppermint oil in the olive oil, or chase the olive oil with a small amount of V8 or pineapple juice, until you can resume taking the plain olive oil and lemon juice.
While you are taking the olive oil and lemon juice, if it gets hard to swallow, take a little more time between doses. Try 20 minutes between doses, or 25 minutes. Try to swallow all of the oil and lemon juice. If you are too nauseated to get it all down, take as much as you possibly can.
You have finished the olive oil and lemon juice. Now go to bed and do your best to go to sleep. Lie on your right side. This position speeds up the process of the olive oil entering the gall bladder to act as a lubricant. This, along with the softening action of the lemon juice, will help to free the stones more easily and readily from the gall bladder. Stay in bed and forget everything until the urge to go the toilet comes.
That was really quite simple, wasn't it?
About 2.00 or 3.00 am you'll probably wake up with the unmistakeable urge to go to the toilet. It may not happen. For some, it doesn't happen until 11am the next day. If your first bowel movement is at 2.00 or 3.00 am you will probably have no stones in it, but you'll want to check to be sure.
When you have the first bowel movement after the cleanse, you'll use the pitcher of water and the paint stirring stick to wash the fecal material through the net. Pour water gently and use the stick to separate the stones from the fecal material. The fecal material will be runny and wash through the net.
You can use the index card, folded in half, as a makeshift shovel. Place the stones in the jar and screw the lid on. You may want to show your stones to some people. Many will be amazed, but some will still be unbelievers. You certainly want to keep your stones for a while to remind yourself that it was all worth while. After a few days they will dissolve (because of the lemon juice and oil). If you want to keep them for an indefinite period, store them in your freezer with a label - GALL STONES. DON'T' EAT!!!!
You may notice green objects and maybe greenish liquid excrement in the toilet bowel. Those are small gall stones. Some gall stones may be dissolved by the treatment.
Dr Lewis found that 1% of people failed to pass gall stones. If you are one of these 1%, don't be disappointed. In some individuals, the powerful action of the lemon juice causes the stones to dissolve before they are passed out of the body. IF you have only greenish liquid bowel movements, the cleanse has been effective.
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Heliana, I've read this remedy in a number of places, but I doubt anyone who is having acute gallstone attacks should use it. A gallstone attack is excruciating - often requiring a trip to hospital for painkillers like morphine - and are often set off by fat & oil in the diet - because the gallbladder constricts to release bile to digest them. I can't think of anything that is more likely to land you in the ER vomitting, writhing, screaming and passing out in pain than drinking the quantity of olive oil in this "cure".
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fair enough Marydean, I did not mean to trivialise an obviously excrutiating condition.
I certainly didn't mean to try this whilst having an acute attack.
The only reason I put it there was because we had had such success with her other ''remedys'' in our family, that I thought it was worth mentioning.
I have no interest in promoting this at all, but I had never before heard of other alternatives, and I had found her other natural methods successful so I thought it worth mentioning.
However, I have never tried this myself so possibly should not have mentioned it.
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I agree Heliana, Dr Cabot's stuff is normally pretty sound, she' been around a long time and I reckon she's on the ball with the whole liver cleansing thing generally.
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I wish I had at least tried this when I had gallstones. A friend of mine tried it when she was put on the waiting list for her Op. She figured there was no harm in trying. She went to the Dr a week after finishing the flush thing and she had no stones in her gallbladder and has had no issues since.
I remember being told to try it and the thought of a pint of olive oil was what put me off... I was so worried it would set of an attack but my friend said it wasn't the case for her and she had many attacks before she tried it.
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Oh I remember those attacks so well.... they are absolutely terrible!! (as you all know!)
Mine went untreated for 2 years with regular middle of the night visits to the local medical centre to be told it was heartburn & to take some buscapan. It did nothing, so I ended up being put on panadeine forte (which I now cant take due to becoming allergic to codeine somehow after those troubles with my gall bladder) Anyway after 2 years I had moved out of the city & saw a "country" Dr, straight away he said it sounded like gall stones & sent me for an ultrasound. My gall bladder was chock a block full of stones. I was booked in for surgery to remove my gall bladder & I think I waited 2-4 weeks for the surgery (sorry I cant remember, it was back in 2003). They put a few of the stones in a jar for me to see, I kept them for a few months lmao.
I cut out all fat which helped alot!!! The attacks were alot less frequent without fat in my diet (it was also great for my waist-line!) I cant think of what else I did, but the cutting out of fat really helped.
I hope you get the surgery soon, the pain is terrible!!!!
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ME TOO!!! Now, when I take it, it sets off an attack just like gallstones (but without a gallbladder).It did nothing, so I ended up being put on panadeine forte (which I now cant take due to becoming allergic to codeine somehow after those troubles with my gall bladder)
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