Yes i have a naughty corner for them both they have a corner each and they havent yet ever moved from that spot when they have been put there so the naught corner works well for me but yeah its hard when im at the shops or something especially with the two of them at the shop on my own ggggrrrr thats when they push me to my point because as you say they know you cant smack them at the shop im too scared to incase someone will make a comment or look at me weird...