For me independence stems from being able to do things on their own, whether I am present or not. I say this because Paris is VERY independent. Always has been always will be. You should have seen her when she was just on 2 at the first BB xmas event she was the first child to introduce herself to Santa and wouldn't leave his side. She's very sociable and very confident. BUT I think this is the direct result of her personality. I think 2 children can grow up in the exact same household and be completely different. I've seen this heaps with my friends kids. I don't think its something you can forcibly teach without there being some psychological affect whether its long or short term I don't know but I'm sure it does affect them. As for growth independence I think thats different and not really what the "BW" was talking about (which is what you have described as independence), we all develop to be independent its human nature I think she's more talking about emotional independence, self confidence etc.

I guess what I'm saying pretty much goes along with ryn!

*hugs*
Cailin