thank you everyone for replying.

it sounds like it often just rectifies itself which supports the theory that they sleep when they're ready & you can't force it to happen.

heaven & allycat - i hope your little ones start sleeping better for you soon. and kim - i know you've had some nightmares with your DS (yeah, i stalk threads about crazy sleepers ) & i hope he sleeps better for you soon.

for those of you who've come out the other side - were you feeding back to sleep? sometimes i get myself in a knot over whether corey will ever sleep for longer stretches if i keep feeding him back to sleep. although i can tell from some of the feeds that he really was hungry/thirsty.

heaven - sorry, one more question! with the night weaning - were you looking at following the dr jay gordan suggestion for night weaning? i really like his suggestion & i'm keeping it in mind for a few month's time.