That's excellent Tenny!
I have just had a really naughty morning tea at a GFF house and my level after two hours was only 5.9! I was totally amazed!
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That's excellent Tenny!
I have just had a really naughty morning tea at a GFF house and my level after two hours was only 5.9! I was totally amazed!
That's a great level!
How's the insulin going?
Going well, now.
Have drs app tomorrow arvo, will see what he says
Fantastic to hear. Good luck with your appointment tomorrow.
xx
Hi All
I just found out yesterday that I have GD. I'm so surprised. Like many of your stories I've got no history of dietary problems, no family history of diabetes, am not overweight, already eat very healthily and get a good amount of exercise. Such a bummer. I do feel very disappointed in my body which never lets me down. This is my second pregnancy. I didn't have GD with my first but did end up having a 4kg baby (not overdue - bang on due date) and a very long, arduous labour...So I'm trying not to be paranoid about having an even bigger bub this time round.
Can anyone who has had GD in a previous pregnancy tell me if they had big babies and if they were able to go to term?
I'm also really confused about low GI diet...For example I'm really surprised that Basmati Rice is better than brown rice!!! And that fruit isn't necessarily that good...I have a sweet tooth so I think I'm going to struggle with all this...Is it ok to have the occasional cake or muffin? Or is it not worth the higher readings?
Thanks for any info.
Welcome Pachamama!
There are a few of us who were pretty surprised to get GD - I have a similar story to you, the only risk factor I had was age..
In terms of diet it does take a bit to get used to and it is trial and error with what works for your body. I can't touch any sort of bread (without insulin) but spuds were OK for me. I would see how you go with levels before you start cheating too many people will be looking at them!
Welcome Pachamama - Sorry it's not on better circumstances but I was in your exact position. Caught me completely out of left field and wasn't expecting it. I've been testing now for almost 3 weeks and now have a good idea of what is ok for me and not. I can still have the occasional treat but i think as petals said you want to try to be controlled in the first few weeks as your levels now will really be watched by your Dr. I don't have to see my Endo for another 2 weeks and haven't seen him since my initial consult as I've been able to keep steady levels. I'm not on insulin.
The diet can be quite confusing and if you read back you'll find I've posted a few food ideas here that I've had good readings with. It really is trial and error. I found that my normal multigrain (helga's) put my levels over 8.0 (need to stay under 7.0) yet I switched to a Low GI bread and it put me up over 9.0. So after some testing found that the Baker's Delight Wholemeal Vienna bread does not affect me so I can have it for sandwiches, toast, or even with dinner.
Some fruit is good and some is bad. I used to live on watermelon, which is turns out is very high in sugar even though it's a fruit. So watermelon is out. Apples, Pear, Oranges, Kiwi Fruit are all good. Added bonus to this is that strawberries are an "All you can eat" treat. They won't affect your levels so go nuts.
My suggestion is to try finding as many food listing ideas as you can and just see how you go. I did alot of searching online for ideas to try. Try and resit temptation for now until you work out how things affect you. A few weeks ago I had a cupcake and biscuit and a friends' baby shower and was all good, just need to have some and not go overboard.
PM me if you want some URL's for lists of food I've found and I could also scan the list my endo gave me which is really good and brand specific. Tells you foods to avoid, sometimes foods and everyday foods.
A typical day for me (to give you a guide or idea):
Bfast: 2 x weet bix with sultanas and strawberries with milk OR 1/3 cup of porridge with same fruit
Morning Tea: Apple or pear and a cup of tea
Lunch: Salad with tuna and a multigrain wrap OR today I had a cheese/tomato sandwich and a Low GI yoghurt.
Afternoon Tea: 3 or 4 vita weats with phili cream
Dinner: Lean meat with vegies and sweet potato and slice of bread (tonight i got away with sweet potato AND some chips)..
I find I'm good with brown rice which i don't mind eating and used to eat before PG, noodles in stir fry i'm also good with.. I find with dinner i just have a smaller portion and have a big side of vegies and that is all i need.
If you are waking really thirsty then your levels are dropping overnight, i had this, so a cup of warm milk with a teaspoon of milo before bed solves this. I usually also throw in 1 x biscuit (Arnotts Snack Right - little pillows of crust with a filling inside - very yummy and low GI)..
Hope this gives you a start and as I said PM me if you want some URL's to check out.
Heya, pachamama!
Finding out is a real kick in the teeth. It's such a shock and I know it took me a few weeks to actually get into the swing of things. I was lucky I found out so early.
It takes a little bit to get to know what really works for you.
For me, I can't have pasta, I have snuck in some wholemeal pasta here and there, but It doesn't go that great either. It's all trial and error.
Good luck with that. :hug:
I didn't have GD with my first pg and my DS was 7lb 15oz, this time when I have it my OB said the baby will only be slightly bigger then DS was.
Maybe you're just one of those people that have bigger bubbas. I'm not sure sorry. I hope this time around your baby isn't bigger then your first.
xx
Hi All
Thanks for your moral support and advice. I guess I'll get my head around it all soon enough. I'm only just 28 weeks now and don't get the glucometer until next week at an info session, so I guess that's when it will all get very serious. For now I'm trying to avoid cakes and biscuits...How cruel when you're pregnant and your sense of taste is heightened!!
Petals - Thanks for advice, won't cheat until I can get levels under control. (But won't even know levels until next week.)
Snowchickie79 - Thanks very much for the food advice...I will read back over your previous recommendations and would also really appreciate any links.
Tennykins - I suspect bread isn't going to go very well with me either but I guess as you say it'll be a process of trial and error...Yeah, unfortunately I think I breed them big so really hoping this baby won't be too much bigger. I don't have childbearing hips!!!
Does anyone know if acupuncture is useful for GD?
Thanks! :-)
Welcome Pachamama - you have already received a heap of great advice, so I won't confuse you too much just yet.
As a basic guide you are allowed 2-4 serves of carbohydrate (aim for low sugar carbs) per meal (brekky, lunch and dinner) and 1 for snacks. A serve is 15g of carbs. So you'll be label reading lots int he next few weeks. Or check out CalorieKing.com.au.
I found the best bread for me was TipTop 9 grain bread with wholemeal. But as you can see from the other girls, it's all a matter of trial and error.
the best thing I did was to keep a diary of what I ate, at what time and then what my bsl was afterwards (2 hours). That way I would look back and see what worke for me and what didn't.
My drs app went great. He's very happy with my levels and I don't have to up my insulin at all yet. I don't have to see him for another two weeks. Actually it will be a different dr anyway because he's on holidays for nearly a month.
Hi Becci
Thanks for the further info...Yeah I've already started reading packets!! So are you already on insulin injections? What's the likelihood of needing them once you have GD?
It all depends in the individual. My after meal bsls are fine, but my fasting bsl is just over the allowed amount. Mean to be under 5.5 and mine is usually closer to 6. So I'm on a tiny dose of Protaphane (6 units) at night. There is not much you can do to bring your fasting bsl down as you sugars have already peaked during the night.
If you do require insulin, please don't stress. Easy to say I know. But the injections don't actually hurt. You feel them, but they are nothing. I hate needles (like most of us I guess), but I'm not having any problem injecting myself at all. I even stuck (clean) needles into my boys (12 &15) because they wanted to feel what it was like and they couldn't feel it either.
It's a pain in the butt, but hopefully I won't need them after bubs is born.
Goodluck with your bsls, and don't hesitate to ask us anything, or to vent, or just share, whatever you need. It's a great bunch of people here.
Hi all
Glad to hear everyone is going well. My BSL's have been pretty good.
I could be away from the PC for a while, my Ob is headed off on holidays, and b/c of the insulin wants to induce me before he goes (ie tommorow night) at 37.5 weeks. I am trying to decide if I do that, or take my chances with whoever his relief is bearing in mind that I could be in the same position in another week with an Ob I don't know.
So I will either post baby news when I get back home and have 5 mins for the computer or will be chatting with you over the next few days.
Pascha - according to the litriture only 10-15% of GD girls need insulin.
Good luck with the decision, Petals.
They say babies are fullterm 37+ weeks.
:hug: :hug: :hug:
Petals - Thinking of you possum.
Hmmmm nothing from Petals. Maybe she's had bubs?
I have been quite naughty lately. Not so much with what I have been eating, more so with skipping meals and forgetting to take my bsls during the day. I always take my fasting ones (which are the one's I have trouble with) and my bedtime one so I can take my insulin. But I get too busy during the day and forget to eat and then forget to take my bsl.
So my aim for the next however long is to eat regularly and remember to take my bsl.
I'm not sure how Petals got on.
Either way I hope everything is going great for her and the baby.
Becci - Somedays I get like that.. and it puts me right out of whack with when I test during the daytime. I always do the before breakfast test and however I feel for the rest of the day depends on when I test next. Lol. I usually test after breakfast, or before lunch mostly. Sometimes after lunch or before dinner aswell. Most the time it's twice. I can't stay awake that long to get the night one, so that's why I just do it every morning. lol.
I had this new nurse lady today take my BP, test my urine, and do my weight, etc etc.
I was so happy I'd only put on 7kgs all pg, aswell as losing some at the start, but she put a damper on that one.
Also how I'd actually controlled this with diet the whole time since finding out at 10weeks too. I'm happy and pleased with myself, but she didn't seem very supportive about that either. I was like "whoa. wtf?"
I was shocked. Way to go, lady. :(
That's excellent news Tenny!
Some people just have no bedside manner and have no idea how what they say makes us feel.
Forget about her darl, I think your doing wonderful!
I don't know how I would cope having to deal with it for that long.
Wow! Only 3 weeks to go for you now! Have they mentioned anything about an induction to you?
Thanks Becci.
And to think she was a midwife too... I'd hate to have her around when I had a baby if she's going to put you down, but in a nice way (which I think is worse)
xx
I haven't had anything mentioned about an induction lately.
The other week my OB said if my levels did rise in the end, the earliest he'd induce was 38weeks, but they're still going pretty well.
Maybe if my OB wasn't going away for 2 weeks, then he may have said more about it. I'm not sure.
If I make it to my due date he'll be back and if I haven't gone beforehand by myself, then I think he'll induce me. Just have to wait and see I guess.
I don't think I'll make it to my due date, but you never know.
What about you? Any mention of induction for you?
I see my GP at home and also an Ob at the hospital (an hour away). The Ob said he will induce me at 38/39 weeks as he's worried about the size of bubs. My ds was 8lb 3oz and as far as I know I didn't have GD so he thinks this one will be big too.
My GP is also away for a few weeks atm. He will be back before they want to induce me though. So I will be seeing a new GP while my regular one is away.
My DS was 7lb 15oz. My Ob thinks this baby will be a little bigger then that, so I'm hoping he's right. Lol.
The u/s I had last week didn't show an overly huge baby, so that's a good sign too.
I hope your baby isn't too big.
Have you had/are you having any u/s soon?
Hi Ladies,
Getting a little quiet in here. :)
No news from Petals??? Hopefully bub has arrived and we'll hear shortly. :)
Not much new here. My BSL's are all fine and staying under 6 which my OB is happy with. I even did my fasting BSL out of curiosity the other morning (Endo hasn't asked me to do this but as everyone else does i was curious) and my fasting level was 3.8
I've still got swelling in my lower legs but the pain isn't as bad now unless i knock my leg or something.
Does anyone have any suggestions for making sweet potatoe a little more exciting??
I have my baby shower this coming Sunday and Endo said I don't have to test that day so looking forward to lamingtons... :) I test made these last weekend and they are SSOOOOOO nice. I've been desperately trying to resist eating them all week and hubby is trying to finish them off as fast as he can as there were about 40 of them.. I've snuck in 1 or 2 in my afternoon snack with a piece of fruit and hasn't done much at all so that was nice. They are only bite size ones, not the normal massive size you get at the shops..
Yeah, it's really quiet in here. I feel like I've seen all these people come and go from this section but I've been here forever. It feels like it's never ending sometimes. Lol.
Great to hear all your levels are going great! All mine have been under 6, with an occasionally 6.0 in there.
Sorry, I don't really eat sweet potato. No ideas for you. :doh:
Is the swelling in your legs just from fluid? I've been lucky not to get any swelling this pg. I got a fair bit with my DS though.
Yay! Your baby shower. I hope it all goes well and you have a fantastic shower!!!!!!!!
Hello how is every one doing :D
Tennykins not long to go now will you deliver in the next two weeks do you think, I have a scan on monday to check size I feel and look huge so i expect the baby to be a good size my last was 8,6 and before that 10,2 so im hoping they wont let me have a baby that big again
my levels have been up and down some good some bad but im watching them and being really strict on my self I was on my last pregnancy and baby was still a bit big and I was induced early as well but in saying that ild do that birth 10 times it was brill compared to my other two baby's
snowchickie79 enjoy the baby shower and the food even better when its nice and does'nt effect the sugars in a bad way :dance:
Hi Guys!
I'm going to be having a basic u/s at the drs office at my 37 week check (the day your due Tenny I think) just to see where he's positioned, but won't be able to really tell size then.
The dr told me that GD babies tend to have lots more fluid around them and I'm not really that big yet, so I'm hoping that means he won't be too big a baby. But not counting on it.
SnowChickie - so gald your levels are doing fine. Might pay to mention to your dr that your fasting level is a little on the low side. I don't mean to scare you but under 4 is going into hypoland, but you probably don't have to worry about that if your not on insulin.
Enjoy your baby shower. Your levels seem to be doing really well, so I wouldn't be too concerned about splurging at your baby shower. My levels are higher than yours (and I'm on insulin) and I splurged a little and my levels were fine.
As for the sweet potato...hmmm.....maybe sprinkle with a little nutmeg or cinnamon? Would normally recommend brushing with maple syrup but that's out for all of us now!
Hope everyone's having a great day!
Niamh75 - OoO. wow. Biggish babies before. Did you have GD for those two pgs or just this time around? my Ob thinks this bubba will probably 8lb something. So nothing majorly huge.
We're hoping that I have the baby in the next 2 weeks. Fingers crossed. I'm over it. Lol.
Becci - I didn't know with GD pregnancies you tend to have more fluid. Did your dr say why? I think I'm much the same size as my first pg, although it's hard to really tell cause I packed on loads of weight that time and this time I haven't at all.
Exciting about your scan. I had 4 u/s all together with this pg. Even though in the end it was harder to lay on my back longer without making me feel sick, I enjoyed seeing the baby more often.
At the moment I'm thinking about what the babys bsls will be when it's born.. like I hope everything goes fine with that.
Nah, all he said is it tends to be what happens. So I found it comforting that if my belly gets huge it's not necessarily because bubs is huge.
I haven't really worried about bubs levels, more about the breathing etc problems that might occur. But I'm at a big hospital so all will be fine I'm sure.
More worried that mine won't drop. Selfish I know, but I'm really hanging out for a carbs and choccie splurge!
tennykins - Yeah seems very quiet. Ah for the day when we don't need to be in here and can just provide a wealth of knowledge. Fluid is just swelling, OB said normal and PG related but seems to be good last few days. I find a bath helps it.
Niamh - I plan to!!! Endo said i don't have to test that day, I'll do my after b'fast level but that is all. I'm not going to go really silly with sweets but if i want cake, by golly i'm going to have cake. I'm making lamingtons and my sister has made cute cupcakes. yummy.
BecciI've tried the cinnamon on the s'potato but not helping much. still taste the blandness underneath. ahh the boredom..
I actually had a work lunch today to farewell 2 girls at work, i had hot chippies and some chicken with a diet coke and my level was 6.9 after lunch so although over 6 was still under 7. Endo said that if over 6 and i can explain why then that is ok... :) I had a safe dinner though and will be a good girl tomorrow in preparation for a blow out on Sunday. :) I see my Endo next Wednesday so hopefully he is happy with how i'm going. My oB this week was happy and said weight is good and bub size is good. I'm really worried about bub size as OB told me from the start, prior to any GD, that a baby over the mid 6 pound range would be tricky birth for me due to my size (i'm petite and have tiny hips) so although the idea of a 7 or 8 pound baby is not considered big under any circumstances, it may present me with a problem which would have been there regardless of having GD now.
Tennykins yep gd in all of them although I think they missed it in my second pregnancy my biggest baby I had loads of sugar but my GP never wrote it down the fool I was very lucky with the baby being ok well he was fine for breathing he did have a few other little problems mainly to do with the delivery though we both were in bits after wards but this is my second pregnancy on insulin I was on more the last time I was hoping i could avoid more injections but not looking good I checked my sugars two hours after breakfast they were 8.5 bit high Ill see what the doctors say on Tuesday have to see every one that day GD doctor and educator and baby doctor.I have a scan Monday bit nervous about that and every thing being ok
snowchickie79 have some for me please :lol: have a great time :)
Becci i know with my last baby I had loads when they broke my waters I remember saying to the midwife omg there is loads more than I remember with my other babies she just laughed it off and my DH said sure you know what thats like being my third but I kept saying no this is more Im soaking then the midwife lifted my sheet and there was loads puddles of it LOL they might listen the next time eh. but may be its the same this time and its not all baby in my tummy cause i feel and look huge now and ive 8 weeks left . its only you said about more water i remembered
hope ever one has a great weekend now :dance:
Niamh - So in your pg that they didn't put your on insulin cause the DR forgot to write it down... after the baby was born was he/shes BSLs ok?
I'm worrying about it a bit lately about it.
I don't think I have that much fluid this time. I feel like I'm all baby, and just have a basketball up my top half the time. lol.
Snowchickie - I hope the swelling goes down. Nothin' worse then feeling like a huge whale in pg with swollen cankles. I had that last time.
Had my baby shower on Sunday and had 2 cupcakes (yummo) and a few lamingtons in a mix of sandwiches made with my GD-safe bread, fruit, and a few hot mini quiches.. :) Also had a few small glasses of diet coke and then water and had a great day. I got SOOOO many presents that it was ridiculous.
I'm at home at present on sick leave so have been putting all the baby things away and sorting out what I've got and what I still need (which is NOT much at all).. My last day of work is next Wednesday and then I'm done!!! Bit earlier than anticipated but with the curve balls I've been thrown at work it was the best decision to keep my stress levels under control.
Allergies still no better and in my "peeling like a snake phase" right now. I'll get a day or two of nice skin and then it'll flare up again I'm sure.. Swelling is the same and legs look alot bigger than normal but managing.
Levels have been good.. Are levels in the 4 range considered low?? I'm averaging in the 4 and early 5 range but I'm wondering what levels are considered too low?? I seem to be able to treat myself with not much issue with my BSL.. Tonight I tried a Rice Pudding (Low GI), the Le Rice ones, for after dinner snack. I don't normally test my fasting level (haven't been told to) but i'll check it tomorrow morning to see how the pudding has gone.
Have my Endo apt tomorrow so fingers crossed he is happy with things..
Chat soon.
Great to hear your baby shower went well! Whoohoo!
I bet you're hanging out to finish work. I know I would be.
I'm not sure what's considered low really.
My levels are all under 6. Sometimes I get a 6.0. Mostly in the 5's during the daytime. My fasting ones are all in the 4's sometimes low 4's, but mostly mid range 4's. I even get a 3.something here and there.
Sorry I can't help anymore.
I haven't tried that rice pudding but I've looked at it a few times. I had some custard the other day. Homemade custard and it actually went well. I was so suprised.
I'm loving bananas lately, but they don't seem to like me. :P
Maybe ask your Endo.
Good luck with your appointment.
Glad to hear that your Baby Shower went of great.
I finished work on Sunday and I love it. Even though I wa only doing four shifts a fortnight in the end it's one less thing I have to do now.
Sorry to hear of your stress at work, but I guess you'll be finished soon so won't have to worry about it. Is that why your allergies are playing up?
As for the low bsls. I wasn't told anything about low bsls until I went on insulin. So maybe they are only a concern once on that. I was told that a reading under 4 was considered a hypo and then taught how to 'fix' it. But from memory your not on insulin so it's probably not a concern for you. If your worried mention it to your GP or Endo for your own info.
Taking a fasting reading after eating the Le Rice won't tell you anything unfortunately. Sugar levels peak 1.5 - 2 hours after you eat, so that's the best time to check. By the time morning comes your levels aren't reacting to what you have eaten. Which is why it's been so hard for me to keep my fasting bsls undercontrol without insulin. It's not related to what I am (or not) eating.
Hi all - I'm back and it was a Boy!
Firstly thank - you to everyone who was thinking of us over the past week.
Thomas Robert was born on the 2/7/08 at 9.55pm after an induction, 3.41 kilos and all was well with him. We came home on Monday, he has had a little jaundice which we are feeding out of him and so far he has been pretty quite.
Will post more later - got to go feed!
Congratulations, Petals on the birth of your little man!!!
I hope everyhting is going great.
Thanks for sharing with us.
Did you know what you were having beforehand??
hello glad you enjoyed the baby shower :dance:
For me any thing under 3.5 is considered a hypo the common effects are : nervousness, trembling,sweating, palpitations , tiredness, headache, intense hunger, double vision( this would be a bad sign meaning they are very low)difficulty concentrating, tingling lips and tongue, slurred speech, unsteadiness or drowsiness.
any body can get a hypo only if you have Diabetes you need to treat it I think its more relevant when you are on insulin as if you are late having lunch have low blood sugar and take your insulin it might send them to low for your lunch to bring them back up quickly enough so you would feel fairly crappy so If mine are low ive to treat it ie something sweet recheck 15 minutes later then if im due to eat take my insulin and have some food.
I have noticed that sometimes mine can be 3.9 and i start to feel bad shaking hands feel light headed my lowest has been 3.2 so far I did have a 1.1 once but that was on my last pregnancy during labour LOL
Go by more on how you feel make sure you are eating enough and not hungry and I think the important thing is to make sure you eat regularly but I think you are controlling them very well if they are 5 two hours after you eat what did the doc say
Congratulations Petals!!!
Hope all is going well.
Thanks Girls!
No we did not want to know before hand, and it was DH who was the first to look. The induction was at the end of the 37th week (due to my use of insulin) and it went well, if any of you want details for your own planning let me know - but it was a normal birth (well, kind of, with gels, ARM and Sync to make it happen) and NO C SECTION or EPI!!:D (the two things I was worried about).
Things are going well and I will not mention what I have treated myself too over the past week or so.
I hope all of your BSL's are going well and I look forward to hearing good news from you all over the next few weeks.
Great to hear that all is going well Petals.
At this stage I'm due to be induced sometime in my 39th week. I have an app next friday so hopefully I'll find out a date then.
I'm also worried about a c/s but if it's necessary then fine. I had an epi with ds so not so worried about that.
I can only imagine what you have treated yourself to this week. I have a huge list for myself too lol
Hope everything continues to go well for you and bubs.