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    Re: Homebirth General Discussion #19

    Meow, have a chat to her about how your comfort levels with her are going. If you still feel like you're not comfy then look at someone else. I hope the acupuncture gets you kickstarted to feeling better
    Tegam, I did one unit at a time for most of it (why it took so long!). I was never one to subscribe to the Ps = Degrees, myself, but copped the compromise. It was silly, really - I enrolled for the Grad Dip and on a parallel universe we also decided to start a family...not sure what I was thinking! But I did the psych really as an offshoot interest to my Anthropology, and whilst I'll not have the marks for Hons in Psych (meh!), my aim is to take my Anthrop further, and I could go straight into PhD, but will be kinder to myself, I think, when the time comes! I don't want to mess around with my Anthrop, hence waiting till I can give it my fuller attention (the Grad Dip suffered through the first and second pregnancies, SPD with both, the passing of my FiL, selling and moving house, living with my MiL for a while after that, then moving to a shed on our farm and settling into a completely new community with DS starting kinder and school during that time and learning all of those ropes!). So, if it's 'just' a little one to work around I think you'll be fine, especially for the first year. DS went to uni childcare at 20 months for two days, which helped, too.
    Photo shoot today - then this baby can come! But not on Friday or Saturday, because my parents will be here and I couldn't think of anything worse...

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    Done! This baby can come now!
    I'm not sure if this baby is dropping or just torturing me. My pelvis is doing well but my difficulty in walking is coming from a distinct feeling that this one is burrowing deep into my uterus and trying to bust out? At one stage I was holding onto the walls to get to the other end of the house. Just. couldn't. walk. And it wasn't my pelvis' fault! Tightenings all day and the trip back from the beach for the photo shoot was quite uncomfortable. Pleeeeeeeease be sooner, rather than later; I've had quite enough discomfort and pain for one pregnancy!

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    Yay SJ, nearly there! Sounds like bub is almost done too.

    I did half of my Masters after DD1 was born (the other half beforehand). So glad it's out of the way. I enjoyed it but just wanted to get through so was very pleasantly surprised when I ended up with a Masters with Distinction. I didn't even know such a thing existed. I aced my last few subjects, much better time mgt skills post-baby! So it's certainly possible.

    My top three things, hmmmm... Fit ball, definitely. Didn't use much else this time. Lol Maybe my Blessingway counts, that was vital prep for my headspace, and also reading Ina May. I didn't end up needing many practical things with the speed and relative ease of delivery. Apart from several good debriefs.

    For DD2 the birth pool, for sure. And wheat pack and fit ball.

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    Another thing, and this is where I get into TMI territory because my belly buddies group defected to FB and I didn't, is bowel movements. I haven't had to take psyllium husk lately and it's a LOT easier than it was for months before hand (where my pelvis would pay for it if I didn't take the psyllium husk!). It is starting to feel impossible that this will go on for 3 more weeks, but knowing my luck it will!!
    Fit ball - I have one on loan here that I haven't inflated, but I think I will (and risk the kids doing something dumb with it...). It helped with DS, I didn't really have time for it with DD because I rocked and swayed hips leaning on furniture for a while before hopping in the birth pool.
    DP had a tanty tonight because I was asking questions about his plan for the birth pool filling (I mean, where do I get off???). I suggested that adding hot water in buckets may not be quick enough and he may need to plan to fill straight from the hot water tap. Then I asked which taps and hose he would use. He didn't like it and threatened to leave the loungeroom, saying I was being nasty. Never mind that I wasn't being nasty, unless 'nasty' means still wanting answers to questions I've asked and not wanting to be fobbed off? I mean, I made him come to ONE antenatal appointment at the hospital (he wasn't entirely happy about feeling compelled to come with me, boo hoo) and I've done everything else - crib assembly (I need his allen key set to firm it up and it has no linen because it's all back at the farm), sunroom set up, hammock frame cleaning and assembly (except for that spring he still hasn't asked him mum to look for and he wouldn't let me buy a spare one going on eBay a few months ago), buggy clean up and assembly (it had been out in the shed for a couple of years and was dirty as all get out) and I reckon I'm on my own for folding the flat nappies (I have a GF searching for her small size MCNs, as I only have a handful, being that I'd borrowed a stash of small Peapods last time from SiL that haven't been offered again and mine are all M size). And where will I PUT the flat nappies and clothes? In a book case he needs to collect but is doing the same thing about - when I bring it up he gets all antsy about it because his time is so precious he can't be driving around collecting things for me. For ME? Not...like...us and the baby?? I mustn't have done enough so far to deserve some more thought about the birth pool filling and effort in collecting a piece of furniture that will make things easier for all of us. But he gets to have a tanty and opt out of the conversation because it's all a bit too hot for him. It would be nice if he could man up about it, instead of acting like I'm trying to outshine him. If that's the resulting effect then it's because he's left, oooh, just about everything to me to organise?? We didn't just accidentally have two fantastic births - I worked damned hard for them and then made it look easy...great for me, bad for me I want to kick him in the shins. AND he's clearly never heard the tenet "never let the sun go down on a fight". But I bet he tells his boss that I'm a whinger again :/
    Vent over. Time for bed.

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    Re: Homebirth General Discussion #19

    Wow SJ that sounds really tough I hope the two of you work it out soon xx

    As for study, I finished my 4th year/some masters level subjects of my degree last year. I've been finishing off the degree one subject a semester FOREVER. I am so looking forward to having a baby with NO study to do

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    Ah study and babies....totally doable...but afterwards oh so lovely not having to do it hahaha. i did my PhD fulltime and had my first two amongst it all. in many ways it worked out ok as you can choose your hours pretty much with a PhD, but it also sucked as i was so darn tired all the time that my traditional work time (at night) just wasnt there. i was too tired to read anything but bad teenage vampire novels hahaha.

    Meow: hhmmm i do suspect that maybe the hep a was there for some time. you guys did have that rough trot with that cold and may have been part of it? It seems to be so similar in effect on birth planning to the GBS....if you know about it it can impact on your plans, whereas if you are just aware that it could be there then you are attentive to all signs and symptoms. Now that you know, i just hope that it passes soon and that you are merely on the tail end of the virus

    Smoke J: oopha. that is really worrying that your H is still not really stepping up. Does birth/babies in general seem to freak him out? is he maybe fearful of the changes that are comign with the arrival of a new human being? I know that my DH can be a bit of a moron once bubs is here as he still has some freak out about the whole new baby thing (i had a shocking time with PTSD after DD1 that left some emotional scars on him i think).
    on a more practical level: do you have anyone that could drop the drawers off? Are you able to speak to his mum about the spring? it does suck though that he is not taking part in this wonderful, special journey. ultimately his loss, but still, you want and need that support from your closest.

    Sounds like you and baby are certainly getting close to birthing! i would think that filling up hot with hose would be best while pots of water boil on the stove.

    Tegam: hhmm top three....

    1. birth pool

    2. Birth affirmations

    3. Calendula tincture (for all things grazes/stitches/swollen nethers. i would put some on my pads and it would help heal and relieve the area.

    but then again, i would also have to add Arnica. I had it in two types of dosages: a 200cH for immediate post birth (single dose) and then a much milder dose that could be repeated as needed in the following days).

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    Re: Homebirth General Discussion #19

    Just did my first fallen off the fitness wagon Facebook status! Just for your suggestion eenee triple choc, raspberry brownies.... Looks yummy but I just want to vomit

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    Tegam: masters? your crazy lol
    Birth pool, fit ball, and DH would say plastic sheets and towels.

    Meow: that's great it's 12 weeks, that's got to help!

    SJ: birthing vibes sent your way

    Ultrasound results= no retained product! yay!

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    Awesome, Eenee!!! Happy days!!!
    Lady Bug I hope you feel more secure in this pregnancy soon - as secure as anyone can feel when pg x
    I need some Zen time tonight (but my parents are due, so not likely) after my DS has been testing me to my limits. It started in the morning and then at the pool again tonight. Ugh. I want my boy back, not this grot! I'm having big doubts about his role in the house while I'm birthing

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    Hi all

    SJ, man that all sounds really tough to be coping with. It is hard when you just want a willing partner to get things done with and you feel you have to drag someone kicking and screaming the whole way. Especially unhelpful when pregnant.. Oh and sympathies on the bub group ****ing off to fb. My last group did that. This time me and a few of the girls who have done this before, resisted when it was suggested. I think we will probably add each other as fb friends when we have had our babies, but I am glad for now we have stayed on bb land.

    Ladybug, congrats on your pregnancy my dear. I hope that you start to feel more secure soon. I had really big doubts about this pregnancy at the start. I used to panic quite often feeling like as tho I might not get to hold this baby. I still panic a little when I hear dd talking about her brother. She told the whole class about him at prep this week. And her teachers tell me she talks about him all the time. Which is great and yet slightly scary for me in case anything happens.

    Eenee, great to hear that there is no retained products. Now to just get your bleeding to settle down.

    As for me, well I have officially hit the emotionally vulnerable stage of pregnancy. Usually for me that is somewhere in the early weeks of thirty, so right on schedule. I find myself really sensitive and crying for no or little reason. Today it was cos one of my best friends sisters responded to me setting up a fb group to support my bf, as she is expecting twins anytime now, negatively. She basically just said that is very nice that you wanna help, but people don't need expectations put on them on how much they should help, and we all have our own relationships with her, and anyway she is super organised and I'm sure she will be fine. Which makes me worry that I am being intrusive and or making a pain of myself. I haven't posted anything on the group at all t suggest what we should do for my bestie other than just that it is a place to organise meals and support like vacuuming the floors or doing a load of washing etc. anyway. It made me cry to read the response and made me want to back away feeling a bit rejected.... Gah... Oh the joy of over sensitive feelings. I honestly don't have a tough skin. Big softie. I often think I am an introvert because I find the work of trying to protect myself really exhausting. Right now I am even more sensitive than normal and I just find people so confusing.... Thanks for the chance to vent girls..

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    Bella, it sounds like her sister doesn't want to be upstaged OR feel like doing much for her sister! I'm sorry you copped that. Just do what you can and see if you can get some other friends on board and bypass the sister? I hear you on the early 30s! That's when I got teary.
    Mixed up with DPs behaviour is the attitude that birth is ordinary. I think he's getting mixed up with 'normal' and throwing 'ordinary' in so that he doesn't have to fuss over me...he's done that twice before. I watched a bit of the DVD and his face does not reflect 'ordinary' right after birth, but he reverts to it easily enough :/
    My parents didn't stay tonight! Small mercies! They had someone call to arrange to stay with them so they just dropped in for enough time to work the kids up, put them to bed a bit later than I wanted and then go back home! I sound ungrateful, but late pregnancy is not a time I want them around for longer than necessary, particularly my mum.
    Anyway, it's more than bedtime
    Have a great weekend, all!!

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    Sewing machine fail - the foot has gone missing in the move, so I had to craft glue the flags onto the tape, but it all looks good
    I also got the kids doing birth art with the left over flags today! It got them away from TV and thinking about how this baby will fit into their lives - the cutest things came out, and they reckon they'll do more tomorrow.
    I've packed a transfer bag that really just contains a couple of changes of clothes, figuring that DP can shuttle for anything else I might need...a token effort on my part!
    DP being a lot less obtuse this weekend...not sure what brought that on, but anyway, I hope it lasts.
    Just waiting for this baby to go quiet so that I can get excited about things starting, but so far there's loads of movement and trying to bust out of my ribcage. Ho hum.

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    SJ...my second child never stopped disco dancing even on her way down the birth canal...weirdest feeling ever hahahaha

    Bella: just sounds like she felt her toes were stepped on IYKWIM. I reckon right now should all be about protecting yourself and nourishing your emotional health....time to get selfish and demand the love! shut out the negativity and create a baby/birth bubble!

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    Re: Homebirth General Discussion #19

    Hi everyone! Before now, I have kind of just been lingering... but I am 20 weeks today, so this whole pregnancy/home birth thing is starting to get a bit more real!

    I will see my midwife next week, and I guess we might start discussing details for a home birth then. In the mean time, I guess I just wanted to get a general idea of the sorts of things I need to organise. My midwife has a birth pool I can hire, but that's all I know.

    I will aim to try and keep up with this thread more from now on!

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    Exciting, Sterla!! You're half way cooked! The Midwives Naturally website has documents you can download for things to prepare - things like sieve, hand held mirror, watercolour paper for the placenta etc. You can google for aromatherapy recipes to make up oil blends and products to heal your birthing bits afterwards (I've got a perineum massage oil and a spray ready, as well as pads in the freezer with a healing blend sprayed on them) - stuff you can start making at about 35 weeks in between furniture rearranging! Think about birthing support, for your other children, too.
    Cassius - I know my DD never stopped, and actually annoyed the crap out of me while her head was out and she kicked inside me for laughs with her angel face pointing up in the water after her quick labour. I'm not sure DS ever stopped, moving before labour, either (he shot out, though, he was in a hurry!). I was hoping this one would be more textbook...though I'm not sure why the labour goddesses would all of a sudden decide I was deserving of textbook at this stage, after spending more than half this pg on crutches
    I'm getting a real hankering to be back in the saddle, so I wonder if that means anything for this week? Come on, baby, I wanna get back on my horse.
    I forgot - after our photo session the other day, the photographer got excited about my homebirth revelation and asked if we wanted a birth photographer. I said I'd already asked DP and run her fees past him and we decided we couldn't afford it...and then she said she does payment plans...DP still wants to hold onto that money, but part of him seems to want to do it. It's our last one (if we can help it!) and we know how much our kids love seeing pics and the video of DD being born (not that we had one, but I am pretty sure it gets more viewing than if we'd had a wedding video!!). Soooooooo...it might still happen...

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    I'm lucky that our house is large so we actually use the master bedroom as a spare (it's way up the other end and I don't like to be away from the kids at night) so when Dd3 was born I had my own suite, everything I needed and no other kids to interrupt me at night, so I got all the precious sleep I needed. It also meant and means that this time that I can set the space up with everything I need and not have to move it after the birth. The room is also big enough for a birth pool so I can be super contained so exciting to talk about it.

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    Sounds wonderful Tegam!

    We currently live in a small 3 bedroom house and I'm not sure where I would the birth pool as the rooms aren't that big. But when we move we'll likely move into something even smaller so who knows where it'll all go down! I keep reminding myself of all those Dutch women who home birth in small apartments

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    On the toilet meow. Nothing to clean up and a very nice neat compact space

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