Homebirth General Discussion #6

[Eenee]

My MW just sent me an email with how we can help with the current situations. If you would like me to email so you can all help out please pm me your email address

[HotI]

Maternity Action Coalition just posted this on FB

Just in from the NMBA:

Once a woman is admitted to a health service as a public patient, the current professional indemnity insurance arrangements for the privately practising midwife cease.
should the woman request it, the midwife may choose to remain as a support person to the woman either as paid or unpaid as agreed between them. The decision by the midwife to remain as a support person is linked to the woman’s right to choose the person(s) whom she wishes to be with her during birth

[Tegam]

hmmmmm

[Bella29]

aww Pip that suxs.... it would be nice to just be able to go to a dr and not have a lecture about that stuff. my gp's wife has had 4 hb's so he is pretty reasonable about it all.

Hot! thanks for that info from NMBA. BTW I totally agree with what you were saying about it not being about where they are at that makes the practitioner. I went to a hb last weekend of a gf of mines. The mw's were so intrusive and kept touching her vagina without asking and generally the whole process was so far away from the "undisturbed birth" that I think she wanted. I wasn't surprised when she ended up with a c/s to be honest, although I was very sad for her. I know how much she wanted a VBAC.... I felt pretty powerless to help her control the environment because she was very vague about what she wanted me there for other than to take photo's despite alluding to wanting me in a doula role. It was difficult to tell the MW's to back off and stop constantly talking to her and over her and commenting on her unusual labial skin tags... Eventually I did say that I really thought she was having a hard time shutting down her neocortex whilst people were constantly interupting her, but I think the peace she recieved as a result lasted all of 10 mins before they were back in harrassing her and telling her to change positions and get back out of the water etc, etc, etc...... Sorry girls a bit of a debreif there. Just sad because I think she would have had less interruptions in hospital to be honest. It makes me much more clear about what I want from my support team tho. In fact both the last 2 HBAC that I have attended in recent months have resulted in repeat c/s and I am just trying to learn from them. One was so negative going into the birth that in some ways I wasn't surprised and the other was still dealing with loads of anger. Lots to take away from both tbh. It has made me aware also that dealing with fears or at least acknowledging them before this birth is really important for me. So is being really honest about what I want for myself. I think that is part of what has prompted me to start to seek out private back up rather than public. Because it isn't about the facility, it is about the person/s who are supporting you.

Anyway that was a lot to get out.

XX Bella

[onthefly]

That's a relief, thanks HotI. A little bit of common sense at last.

How awful for your friend Bella!

[Cassius2]

Bella: you are right, it is about the team you have. that is what i liked about in the film the business of being born. that Abby was able to transfer knowing who the face on the other side of the door was going to be (and therefore able to protect her from the disparaging transfer comments that seem to follow).
I am really sorry for your friend . you are onto the right thought process though, i think that it is imperative to be constant and vigilant about what you need to have achieved in any birth process and situation and it is imperative that the birth support team is just that...to support you. we were very thorough in our appointments to really get it home what was acceptable and what wasnt. i had my IM and calmbirth practitioner (and back up midwife) discuss the importance of letting me alone (thankfully my IM was already on board in that respect) to allow the calmbirth full space. and then i threw frederick leboyers "birth without violence" at both of them and told them that we were following that to a tee. it raised a few eyebrows but i didnt care and wouldnt budge lol.

Arte: i havent had a chance yet, but am sending you happy birth blessings for your new little addition who should be making her entrance soon

[Cassius2]

It's my little home-birthed bubba's first birthday today

I cannot believe that one year ago I was embarking on what turned out to be one of *the* most magical and joyous moments that I think i will ever experience...