homebirth general discussion #9

[Arcadia]

Hi all,

Ash! I've been thinking of you! Yes the money you blow on Pharma meds is insane!! I saw five drs, went through multiple courses of things and also spent a fortune at a naturopath! I have had some burning pain yesterday and this morning, so I'm feeling crap about it all too. I can't believe how persistent that bloody stuff is!! I'm hoping it's just because I have a cold and my immune is down. I'm thinking of you lots and lots though

Bella? Anyone friends with her on fb? I haven't seen her around?

Cass, I really hope we can meet up when you're back. Then I'll be able to give you belly rubs too!

Meow, how are things all going with your family?

Jen, I can't believe you may be getting periods again so soon. I'm feeling pretty lucky I've got to twelve months again with ds.

I definitely want another baby, so we're thinking of ttc later this year, or probably in the new year (since I turn 30 on the 29th of December woot!). I certainly want another home birth and I'm really going to try the pool this time...really! I think I'll still birth on land, because I like my midwife being right there at the action, but with any luck I can ask her not to touch the baby and try and be more active in bringing the baby out and up to my chest. With both my births though I feel so overwhelmed by the pushing urges, I can't connect my hands to feel the area and the baby...I have tried both times, and I just want to grip onto something and not let go (first time it was dh and second time it was the bed).

I love the thought of the baby floating out and being lifted out of the water by it's mama....ahhh....

[Jennifer13]

Bella is in the process of moving so I'd say is either packing or similar! She has been around on FB, but not much.

Arcadia, isn't it amazing that we can tweak our births with the control you have at home? I love how well you know what your body is like when birthing! My pushing was relatively slow this time (compared to labour) and DD2's head was delivered slowly, stopping half way. I imagine that will be quicker if there's a next time. I guess you have the freedom to choose in or out of the pool at any stage.

Cassius, ah, that makes sense. Home in Aust isn't Sydney, is it? It feels so odd being so connected to all of you and so far apart! DD1 will get so much out of this baby's birth if you want her there. I often think how amazing it is that my six year old knows more about a normal birth than most grown women (and men) do. In Birthings mag once a mum of six who had most at home tells how her 11 year old son corrected their teacher at school after the class watched a birth video and said it was nothing like how it happened!

[Tegam]

Jen I also love it when I hear my daughter playing with their friends. Once a little friend said something about having to go to hospital. Dd1 said 'why, just have it at home, its not like you are sick' and dd2 aka miss social justice said 'you can have a baby where ever you want'
Later the little friend was making a lot of noise and the girls asked why. The friend said its sore having a baby, my girls said no its not. This started a fight, they came to me and I said 'no its just a lot of hard work to have a baby'

I have also heard one of my kids (can't remember which one) say ' oh would someone just stick a boob in that babies mouth'. This is something my DH says to me, in a loving way. It's nice to know I have raised kids to have such 'normal' ideas about birth and feeding.

I do worry that ds's wife will have a lot to live up to if she was raised differently. Do you get what I mean? I'm not saying its wrong, I just think my daughters will be able to change a mans pre conceived ideas to their way of thinking. But a daughter in law might hate me for letting ds think aural is normal??? Hmmm hopefully he'll fall for a tree hugger

Ash how are your boobs?

Audaxs where are you?

Teni: welcome.

Cass: yay for coming home but poo to moving country when so heavenly utd!

Hoti. How is your baby already 8 weeks old!

Bella; hope your move is going well!

Em and cricket. In a few days (april) we'll be able to say you are having your baby next month!!!!!!!!

Kel: you stalking? You haven't dropped in for a whole? Your plans coming along?

Meow: if and it's a HUGE if I can convince DH of number 5 we will be trying in feb/march/April 2013 hoping for a jan 2014 baby. Wanna be pregnancy buddies??

Arcadia: belly buddies with meow and I? I'd love to have a water birth next time. If not I will at least stay in the shower do you do patchwork? I love the quilt in your avvy. I love sewing

Did I miss anyone? Probably but on tapatalk so can't see old posts. Hugs

Afm: undecided as if I should still be in here. Not sure we will ever have anymore bubs and all this beauty of pregnancy and amazing birth pulls at my heart strings

[Jennifer13]

Tegam you can just be here to impart your wisdom.

[meow]

Jennifer- my second stage was long in both labours. I was feeling so ripped off second time around when it happened again! It's not like I was pushing when I shouldn't have been (my body was making me do it) and I was in an optimal position both times. Just nothing would make those babies move down any faster. My second son crowned through 3 contractions (the first one bobbed in an out, but second one just stayed there, half way out for what felt like forever!) so I can relate. I was proud of my ability to be completely relaxed through that. Damn his shoulder getting a bit stuck and tearing me on the way out!! After all I had done to let his head come out so slowly!

I hope your appointment goes well Cassius! Let us know how you fare and good luck going to their office We'll most likely have baby#3 while we're in the states so I'm a little antsy about "the system" here. I have noticed our local HB MWs seem to appointments at their birth centre. I want home visits! I'm thinking I might look into a "freebirth" with an unregistered MW. It'll be such a shame not to revisit and grow on the relationship I built with my previous MWs too.

Arcadia- thanks for asking, our family is going great! My eldest son is doing freaking amazing things and is really healing. But it's intense. I am cooking and organising his therapy & education all the time. There is just no way we can have a baby until he is MUCH more healed and things are more calm. I'm looking forward to waiting because I'd like him to understand what is going on next time around and it'll be lovely to be able to share with both the boys... it just makes me sad when I think of how much more comprehension other children his age have and how much more ready we would be to have another baby if we didn't have this hurdle already. I have to spend some time detoxing after baby#2 weans before we can safely get pregnant again too... I'm thinking we wont be able to TTC till about late 2013, so I'll probably be 38 for the next one

Stick around Tegam- I always liked hearing from those that had been there before when I was planning my HB

[meow]

Jen I also love it when I hear my daughter playing with their friends. Once a little friend said something about having to go to hospital. Dd1 said 'why, just have it at home, its not like you are sick' and dd2 aka miss social justice said 'you can have a baby where ever you want'
Later the little friend was making a lot of noise and the girls asked why. The friend said its sore having a baby, my girls said no its not. This started a fight, they came to me and I said 'no its just a lot of hard work to have a baby'

This is funny!! When I was working with some preschool children while pregnant with my first son, they started acting out having babies. OMG! Doctors, waling mother flat on the back, c-section!! I entered into a conversation with them about how babies aren't always born with doctors around and some are born at home. They were amazed and rather fascinated by the concept of a midwife.

[Tegam]

Meow it's just weird to imagine a time when kids don't know any better about hospital birth and formula feeding

Sounds like you are doing an amazing job with you ds! You must get so tired being 100% all the time. You should be super proud. Another reason to hold off having another, you will need a little me time to nurture your new little one

[*Ash*]

Hi everyone!
Oh Arcadia, has the burning pain gone? Oh how frustrating and disheartening I still have a burning sensation when he first latches on and for about 1/2 hour after the feed. But this is a big improvement. I ended up at my GP in tears on Fri. I had done the Diflucon (finished on Thurs) and had noticed an improvement. But still feeling down about the pain. GP prescribed a cream- Kenacomb. Have you used it? I was sceptical. How can a cream help with deep, internal pain? It cost $54 for 30g! Anyway, 3 days later and it has obviously had an impact. I should join bf thread but I wouldn't want to turn anyone off!
So exciting that you might start ttc at end of year! You should definitely have the pool on stand by for your next birth.
Sorry, I'll catch up with everyone else later- time to feed on my 'dodgy' side!

[Arcadia]

Ash- I pmd you so we don't hijack this thread with the terrible woes of ****ing thrush!! But I think of you every day!

Team, yes I like to sew and have made a few quilts...I'm a novice patchworker, but I make curtains, upholster furniture, make clothes for myself. My main focus for the last five years has been leather bags.

Meow, I'm so glad things are going so well for you. Maybe we'll be belly buddies for our next (with tegam)

Jen, thanks for your kind words. I do feel like I know my birthing body intimately. It's an awesome feeling! With dd I pushed her head and body out in one go, but ds I pushed his head out and then had a good break and then his body. I infinitely prefer the slower version lol, because dd gave me a graze as she came out (she had her hands at her face).

Gotta run...so sorry for those I haven't included....

[TeniBear]

Waaaaahhh not joining you yet! But I'll hang around and stalk you all. For doula research... Yeah... Research...

[Bella29]

Well I have no idea how it happened, but somehow I got unsubscribed to this thread. How annoying! I just had to read three pages. I went looking cos after all this time since I last saw a thread come up from here, I figured someone must be chatting on the hb thread.

Anyway thank you to all the girls who missed me and noticed I wasn't posting. That was really lovely to know you all noticed. Yes we have been hugely busy packing to move. Mind you settlement has now been delayed by anywhere up to 2 weeks cos we found out that usually ppl in hubbies line of work arnt charged mortgage insurance. Which we were gonna be. So we are saving $23k but it is costing time to renegotiate with the bank. If they won't choose to waive the fee we will go with a different bank who will. Anyway enough about that! I just wish we knew when we were going to move. I have half the house packed and boxes everywhere.

Btw whilst we r off topic *does a little turn*. What do u think of my new Avi?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk..... I'm probably feeding my cherub

[*Ash*]

I love love love your new avi Bella! You all look gorgeous! DS1 has a beautiful hair colour. Stunning background too.
Of course we noticed your absence. Good to see you.

I would definitely stalk a belly buddies thread with Arcadia, meow and Tegam in it!

[Tegam]

Ash why would we have a belly buddies thread when we have a home here already!! But stop already your getting me excited for something that might not ever happen again.

Bella. Did you use the new app? It seems if you reply in the new app you lose your subscription unless you hit subscribe again, every time you post! Love the avvy! And the pretty turn you did to announce it

[luna moth]

Audaxs where are you?

How did you know I was stalking?

[Jennifer13]

We love lurkers and 'researchers'! But be warned, that's a temporary classification at best.

Audax, how are you doing? Did you get my PM? Just want to help out your HB fund.

[Cassius2]

oh Bella that new Avvy is delish! i am starting to think about a new one to reflect a baby bump...but gosh darn it i suck at designing them lol.

Teni: you belong in here, no stalking necessary!

[Ambersky]

Hello women, Thought i had better stick my head in here :-) DD2 was born at home, and all going well this belly babe will be too. Now i just need to find my positive belief again, so I'm here to surround myself with fellow 'believers'

[Cassius2]

welcome to the thread Ambersky!