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  1. #1
    2014 BellyBelly RAK Recipient.

    Aug 2010
    Over the hills and far away
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    I can see the legal part of negligence of a hp. If you are calling an ambulance you are putting them in a position where they owe you a duty of care. And legally and ethically, as a health carer, it is our responsibility to meet that duty of care to the best of our ability. Just as nurses are expected to continue resuscitation measures on a pt until a dr has declared them deceased, unless unsafe to do so. And in a way that duty of care does make them fully responsible for your care, until someone more experienced/trained takes over.

    By saying this I'm not saying a hp has the right to force care, but it is their obligation to try to enforce the best care possible.

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    BellyBelly Life Subscriber

    Feb 2006
    South Eastern Suburbs, Vic
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    Legal stuff sucks sometimes hey. It's annoying that the autonomy of parents is compromised because people can be a bit litigatious if they don't want to take responsibility for their own choices. I'd have loved to be a candidate for hospital-linked home birth, and a history of fast births made that one of my safest options, but a previous PPH meant that I was 'too risky' for the hospital to insure the home birth, even though that placed me at higher personal risk. It's crazy. I don't know how much weight a waiver would carry, I know I'd be happy to sign a waiver saying that I was the one making the call to stay home.

    FWIW, I play the 'dead baby' card to myself. I just assumed most parents did when working through any tricky logistics? I play the 'dead child' card when I am teaching my kids about road safety, choking or allergy hazards, electrocution, water safety, and so on. Death is a hazard of being alive. I am totally entirely confident in my ability to birth babies, and have done so very successfully and safely in the past. I'm not alarmist, I don't expect things to go wrong. I do like to have a contingency plan. If someone goes into a birth situation entirely unaware of all of the risks and possibilities and options available to them, I wouldn't call them fully informed.
    I hated the birth class where they showed us forceps, ventrouse, various machines—scared the crap out of me—and I was cross about them playing the 'danger danger' card. But they (even being a low-risk birth centre) saw the need for those things arise from time to time, and I guess playing that unpleasant card meant I was informed, even though I never needed that level of intervention. Every deck of cards has crap and useless ones that come in handy sometimes.

    I don't appreciate fear-mongering about work-throughable scenarios, and I have definitely come across that in health professionals, easily. I didn't interpret Nickle like that though—perhaps it helped me to remember that a paramedic is less likely to be called out to a straight-forward, complication-free 6 hour textbook labour, and more likely to be called out to a premature situation, transfer, or very quick/rushed situation, and risk management is more of an issue for them.