Madissun - maybe try chevapi's instead of hotdogs? Yum, yum.

Flowerchild - I did know about the nitrates/salt etc so don't give to DD (But I still eat ham and salad sandwiches - I figure I'm pretty big and just tiny slices of shaved ham naughty, naughty). Anyhoo, quick question you will probably know - what about leg of ham/ham on the bone - does that have the nitrates/as much??