I'll have to hunt down the jelly version I took... it's not tasty but not particularly awful, it's kind of like eating custard in terms of texture etc... I had DH on Royal jelly capsules, but ordered online to get the actual royal jelly - it needs to be kept in the fridge and I used to take it in the mornings, about a teaspoon - but it was almost a year ago that I took it!! It's usually recommended to be on it as long as possible before a cycle to improve the quality..
I had been through two stim cycles with quite bad OHSS, both were freeze-all as I was too unwell to risk a transfer. Between the two cycles we got 11 blasts frozen, but only four of them were able to be used. Crap egg quality lead to bad embryos that couldn't survive being frozen. From five transfers I had three miscarriages and one negative...
Then we came to our third stim cycle and I was put on a VERY strict diet. We got less eggs, that were considered to be of better quality as I was less over stimulated than previous cycles. From 20 eggs, only 12 were mature (they'd taken me to EPU a little early to avoid OHSS again) and only three of those fertilised. This time we didn't grow to blast and I had an embryo transferred at day three. From that cycle I got two frozen day three embryos and now have a 21 month old little boy sleeping in the next room.
I'm happy to pass on details of the diet I was put on, but believe it's only useful for improving egg quality if you have PCOS.
back from FS, she told me the lab reports said the egg quality was poor and that they were sticky and hard to inject for icsi.
She is going to try me on antagonist cycle for the next round. Ordered a heap of blood work to check everything is ok. I don't have PCOS, we are hoping the egg quality is poor due to the number of eggs I am getting, if not then she does not know what could be causing it.
Hi Nic, super big hug for you babe
we're been trying and having Assisted ovulation for 15months now and have just done a cycle of IUI. with a couple more planned before going to IVF. Hubby's sperm are super so just me and no eggs is the issue.
Butterfly_warrior - i do have PCOS, so would be really interested in that diet (though not very keen on it).
Nic, you'll be fine. everything will work out. I've read all the books that you have and I don't have the answer for you...
all my love
Cil
Hi Nicole, was just about to say you should ask for an antagonist cycle!
Also get onto the fresh royal jelly. It's amazing stuff and has good results for egg quality. My FS told me anecdotally that his patients who have taken it in second and subsequent cycles have all had better quality eggs than in their first cycles when they hadn't taken it.
Hey Nicole, DNA frag test is to check the sperm for the right DNA to make a baby, i read up on it and basically they put dye in with the sperm and the good ones should go orange and the bad ones will go green (i think). Under 30% of bad sperm is ok but anything over that is not good, so if this is the case surgically removing the sperm would be the next step as when a guy ejaculates it actually damages the sperm more and then if that fails then a donor is needed. The test is costing us $250 with no rebate! but its worth it if we find out why it still hasn't happened for us.
cariesp, unfortunately being a new member you don't have access to PMs to be able to PM me your email address so I can send the info along.
The basic idea is that it is a high protein, low carb diet, ensuring that all carbs you do eat are low GI. I certainly know that it did help for me - towards the end of the cycle when I was getting sick of the diet and splurged on a hamburger and chips for lunch, I nearly ruined the whole cycle. I was being very closely monitored and my E2 level that morning was fine. My E2 level the next day had taken a big scary jump, despite a drop in puregon dosage, so I certainly know what did it.
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but its worth it if we find out why it still hasn't happened for us.
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