thread: ICSI - Low Ovarian Reserve & Poor Sperm quality - DHEA

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  1. #1
    Registered User

    Sep 2009
    314

    hi i have low ovarian reserve and also a chromosonal problem and elevated NK cells.. I have been on DHEA for about 6 months i had a epu today and got 11 eggs which i was happy with.. I also took growth hormones which are about $130 per day for 10 days and i am seeing a chinese doctor so have been taking chinese herbs and getting accupuncture.
    I am hoping that the combination of all this is going to get me some good quality eggs this time.
    Good luck with your journeys
    x

  2. #2
    Registered User

    Feb 2011
    Melbourne
    207

    Hi Blossom,

    So happy to hear you had 11 for EPU, thats great to hear. Have you tried before using the DHEA?? I only had 1 EPU as two released themselves... I am thinking of trying accupunture.
    Do you have to have other injections with NK cells??
    I hope it all goes well for you. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

  3. #3
    Registered User

    Sep 2009
    314

    Hi Bex i have used DHEA before but unfortunately for me the combination of the growth hormones, chinese herbs etc just hasnt worked that well this time either.
    I had a call this morning out of 11 i have had 8 injected, 1 died, 1 fertilised and the rest not good at the moment but they may have caught up by this afternoon.
    With the NK cells you have to have clexane injection, prednisone 30mg and 1 x cardiprin per day.
    Katbaby fingers crossed for you, i know it is such a hard road i had the same thing happen last time and was sent home with nothing to transfer and this time out of 11 it looks like maybe 1 has fertilised find out more tomorrow.
    Devastated today finding it hard to see the positives and i know i have to pick myself up and try...

  4. #4
    Registered User

    Feb 2011
    Melbourne
    207

    anksu Huids

    Katbaby & Blossom,

    You guys are amazing to be so strong. I wish you both all the luck in the world.
    It is a gut wretching time & the money part doesn't bother you as long as you get something for hey... but when you don't it really stings hey.
    I hope to hear you both have exctiting news really soon.
    I just wish sometimes the FS could be a little bit more understanding to my FS after telling me there was nothing to transfer and I was crying put his hand on my leg and said ok cry today but then that's it. Time to move on. Which is hard when you feel soooo sad.

  5. #5
    Registered User

    Apr 2007
    228

    Hi. I've been taking DHEA for the last near 3 months as well. I was told after 3 IVF/ICSI treatments, it's likely I have low ovarian reserve due to the low numbers I get on egg pick-up and because anything that fertilises is 50%+ fragmented and dies by day 4. My hubby has really bad swimmers too. The last count I think was 4% good swimmers so ICSI is a must for us. I've been doing acupuncture and the Liz Lalor fertility homeopathic program. I have had very little side effects to the DHEA but do not feel any better off for it either as suggested by research. If anything I can get easily worked up / angry quicker and am losing a higher than normal amount of hair. I'm trying to stick to a low GI diet as well but it's hard. We're hoping to do another cycle in a month but if the results are the same, it's likely to be our last ever go and we'll stop trying. Its so hard to stay positive isn't it? In over 3 years of trying we've not had one single glimpse of a pregnancy. I just want to know why? I fell naturally with my first child and now nothing.

    Bex what does an AMH test involve? What is the score referring to? Is it for low ovarian reserve? I've had every blood test under the sun...I thought. Also what does the NK cells test involve? I haven't been tested for it, but my FS treated me for it in our last cycle just to cover all bases. It's pretty easy to treat I'm told. We both had a single dose of a steroid, aspirin & something else I think. Can't quite remember....I've been taking so many drugs over the last year it's all just mashed into one.

    All the best everyone.

  6. #6
    Registered User

    Sep 2009
    314

    Hi zigzag with regards to NK cell test a FS called Dr Gavin Sacks at IVF Australia Bondi is the only one i think that does the biopsy to test for it.
    It is treated with 30g prednisone a day, clexane and cardiprin.
    Good luck with the next cycle i know it is so hard to let it go in the end but fingers crossed for you that the DHEA has made a difference and you get a good result.
    x

  7. #7
    Registered User

    Feb 2011
    Melbourne
    207

    ZigZag, the AMH test was done by FS and it is for Low Ovarian Reserve. Mine is very low & my husbands sperm test states the same as yours.
    I'm looking for a good natropath but then I also don't want to keep shoving all these different drugs into my body I'm sure its getting confused.....
    This soooo hard this journey and the only people who have a clue is other people who are going through the same thing. If I hear one more person tell me to relax or just do it more.... I will swear at them.
    Blossum any news???
    Katbaby how are you feeling??
    have a good day all x