Had a Kia Carnival, but one of the shiat ones, so got a Hyundai Trajet... LOVED IT!!!!! But then needed a bigger one, and now we have a Toyota Commuter. It was a 14 seater, but we took out the 3 seater from across the back, so we can stilll seat 11, and we have a MASSIVE boot..... for all the prams, shopping, sport crap etc.....