Dont know. I was thinking about this myself after my last post. Ours were factory fitted by ford with matching upholstery and there is definitely more room behind them than there would be in a kluger or ford territory, those seats fold away underneath, I cant possbily see how they would be safer. We have a 3 seater d***y seat in the back so our car now seats 8 all up and we can still fit a jeep wagoneer two seater pram (very long pram) behind them with a little space left over. I doubt you could do that in a kluger or ford territory.